Are you talking about the industry or the consumers? :)

I'll definitely agree that the healthcare insurance industry seems to be.. well.. evil. Not just in practice, but by nature. Any corporation that stands to make a profit by NOT allowing people necessary healthcare services is just no good. They do a lot better if we pay (or our employers pay) and we either don't get sick.. or if when we do get sick, they don't pay for our treatment!

In other countries, I've heard that they handle this in a better way... healthcare services are provided by the government, and instead of just denying people treatment when they get sick, to save costs, the governments actually encourage people to seek as much treatment and preventative care as they need to avoid getting a serious illness or problem that will need an expensive treatment. It is so much more humane.

yeah really. Here in the US, I think we have "too" much freedom at times.

to the point where all this privacy bullcrap tends to get in the way of everything.

talking about humane, I don't know how it is in other states, but here in Indiana, if the doctor doesn't like the color of your shirt, for any reason he downright feels like it, can send you a certified letter and stop seeing you as a patient, at any given time.

like on here for instance, we tend to have to watch what we say, but if one of my doctors read what I say to someone else on here, even if I don't mention names, he can dismiss me as a patient, meaning I have to goto another city just to get medical care.

Some of these doctors treat some of their patients like their "gods" nowadays, and its probably more aggravating to me then anything else in the health care system. Not only is the healthcare system too overpriced, but if you say anything negitive about it at all, your dismissed as a patient if the doctor does a search on you. its like, what on earth is this healthcare system coming to?

I mean, how on earth, can a doctor, just stop treating you for a serious chronic illness, just because they don't like something you say, or don't like the color of your shirt one day? er something? its aggravating.

like one time, I said something in my Blog, about my doctors scheduling nurse (I didn't mention names) neglecting to inform me, that he had an emergency surgery and was going to be out of the office on the date I was scheduled to come in. So I was making a post, saying I had to drive 2 hours to get there, when their office knew 2 weeks prior to that, that he was gong to be out of the office that day.

so basically it wasn't an issue with my doctor himself, but the scheduling people neglected to call and let me know.

So like, 5-6 months later I think it was, I recieved a letter from my doctor, stating he could no longer treat me as a patient.

I had just had a surgery performed, and because of this, I was not able to go back in for a followup after the surgery.

I was thinking, "what the heck??" It took me like, a year, to find another rectal surgeon after that. I didn't know what the deal was, until after I spoke with my family physican. apparently he had made copies of my blog post to all my phsicans, and all of them stopped seeing me as a patient as well, except for my family physican, and he said he could understand why the other 2 doctors did that..

I asked him I was like, what, I didn't say nothing about him personally, just the office, and I had a right to complain about that I told him, but he just said "well he has the right to do that, so now you have to find a new doctor team"

so, apparently I learned after that, that a patient is not allowed to say anything about the care that the patient recieved from the nursing staff, or the doctor can stop seeing that patient at the drop of a hat.. its aggrivating to say the least. Its like, how can a doctor humainly do that to a patient? just stop treating a patient abruptly like that?

Wow.. I've never heard of something like that before. What was your doctor doing reading you blog anyways? .. I guess I dont' have much of a relationship with any doctor, but I can't quite imagine them googling me to find out whether or not I like them or their staff.. strange thought.

Absolutely it is the same. You are talking about a for profit system. Take note that the guy who runs a gas station is not the theif here but rather the oil companies. the same for healthcare -the doctors and nurses are going broke when the insurance companies are at a all time high in their capital revenue and salaries.

I agree looloo they are so greedy. Our health care system is broke at many levels. I have been sick from CFS for five years. After I decided I was going to figure out what was wrong I did. But the doctors who treat me so good so very bad never would have guessed in a million years what was wrong with me. I have to say my illness was pretty serious as I ended up almost in adrenal crisis five times before I was finally diagnosed. And the thing is a five minute $15 test would have told them what they needed to know. It's terrible how incompetent the doctors are these days and part of it is not their fault.

Yes, yes, yes.....

Health care - the decisions from everything from the research to be done, the cures, vaccines, medications, etc to whether or not to treat someone being based upon the profitability of the outcome is both morally and ethically wrong.

I spoke with someone the other day who works for a major oil company who told me that the technology exists to have cars that get more than 50 miles per gallon WITHOUT them being hybrids, but because of the oil/gas companies being in cahoots with the car companies, it won't happen. Our planet is being destroyed by corporate executives lining their pockets with m/billions of dollars.

Thanks for your input. Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way.

Just imagine if we weren't funding this war of terror and imperialization on the eastern world. Even if paying the greedy health care industry with government subsidized dollars, instead of out of our own pockets, we would still have enough to build a monorail system that circles the United States and operate the thing for a thousand years.