I loved it and I a huge fan Of Michael Moore.We have a broken health care system her in America and it really shows.I cant go to a Rheumy or speacialist for my fibro my insurance wont cover it.I cant get on Lycira my insurance would rather pay for opiates than something that might help.I looby at the State Capitol when I can to help change the broken system here in Oregon Its a everyday stuggle and its getting worse..Hugs to you

Didn't see the movie, but I can tell you that I am NOT happy with our health care system. Don't know how it was depicted, but it's bad-d-d-d-!!
Cost of insurance is outrageous, cost of doctors, hospitals and meds are sky high, people who don't have insurance basically just don't get health care because they can't afford it. People who are poor enough to be on state aid (welfare/the dole) get free or almost free medical care, the rich have insurance, the poor working class just don't go to doctors. Dental care is worse, welfare in most states don't cover dental for adults, social security does not cover dental or vision. It's a complete mess!!

You said it Lady in a nutshell what a mess!!!!!!

I loved the movie. Even if you do have good health insurance (and it usually boils down to you are working for a fortune 50 company and they are self insured)the health system is broken. For these people they over order, over medicate and over do period. It's why I am so sick I didn't need a biopsy. Upon ultrasound the doctor knew I didn't have cancer but did the biopsy anyway which has left me totally disabled. The conditions were unsanitary and this caused mold to grow in my breast. Because the health care system in this country doesn't recognize mold exposure for what it is I was not diagnosed until it had damaged my brain, liver and hypothalamus. Lyme disease is another disease that doesn't exist because the insurance companies don't want to pay for treatment of Lyme disease it's too expensive.

I absoloutly loved the movie. I could go on and on about my past problems w/ health insurance companies. I am lucky enough to be under my husbands, otherwise I would be paying a week and a half's salary for personal insurace since as a hair stylist we don't get any benefits.

I just went and bought it...we will prolly watch it tonight...for the amount of premium we pay you would think they would roll out the red carpet everytime we go to the clinic...they charged my insurance company 40 bucks to "WARM" me up a blanket...and I did not even get to KEEP the damn thing...no wander our premiums are so high

I'm probably gonna get reamed for this, but I've got a different view.

My hubby works for a middle area business, considered small by industry standards. We have good insurance. I have 6 people, we are all covered for about $220/mo. Almost EVERY doctor I go to is covered. I can see any regular doc for a $10 and any specialist for $20 copay. Doesn't matter if they send me for blood work or even an MRI, it's all covered. My generics are $10 and brands are $20. If I wasn't so sick, it wouldn't cost me anything, but since I am, and see so many docs and am on so many meds, I spend about $150/mo. on meds and docs. I don't consider that bad at all. I was hospitalized in 2003 and it cost the ins. $24,000. My son was hospitalized in 2000 and it was $50,000. I can tell you, my ins. hasn't made ANY money off of me.

It's just my opinion, but at this point, I'm happy.

well......we watched last night...WHY DID I NOT KNOW ALOT OF THIS STUFF ??

I pray no one has that kaiser insurance......wow...

I do have good medical...but have seen details of my charges...and it amazes me...

so what IS the answer ??...had I known this shit back when i still had my brain and some energy...i would be out there makeing people stand up !!!!!

hell I may just still do it !!...there has to be more to my life then THIS....where do I even start at this point !!!!

this is so very sad...sad enough to REALLY PISS ME OFF...did you see that sweet old lady just being dropped off .....no shoes...in a Freakin HOSPITAL gown ???


OMG, I am upset...see..this will not work...

please...if someone out there still has any part of their brain left...tell me what is my first step ???

I will contact Micheal moore...that is what I will do...he has lotsa brains i can draw off of....I have the temper to work thru my pain for a cause.

Bonnie

I plan to watch it. I have problems with the fact that our medical system isn't "more" like other businesses... and I say this because they do not have to compete with eachother really, it's all in the insurance companies hands. Also, there is no "customer" in this case real patient service (customer service), and I also think that the dr offices and hospitals need to be much "warmer" and much more appealing than they are as the strerilized little rooms with a computer. Now, there of course is the problem of people who can't afford it..well, I think if they were more competitive, this would drive the cost much lower, and also, I think people would take better care of their health if insurance wasn't involved. I think the health care system needs to be accountable to "us" NOT insurance companies or the government for that matter.
Of course, I don't think that some people should get care and others who can't afford it shouldn't...I think we could have clinics and hospitals that are supported perhaps by churches and other organizations and be considered a legitamate and much needed charitable cause. I don't think that a "socialistic" answer is our answer for us in America. With that type of system, we're certainly not going to have better "patient (customer) service..either will it promote more personal responsibility on the part of the patient with regard to his/her health. It takes away any "real" competition which is what drives businesses, ect... to do better, and have more competitive prices.
We can do better than that... but it's going to take time, and maybe some different thinking. I intend to watch his movie, even though I don't necessarily agree with his Philosophies since I feel we need to look at the Whole picture. There's no easy answers that's for sure. Surely with some of the great minds and brains in our country we could figure this out. Just my two cents.

I went to the Micheal Moore web page...I signed a pettition...and will be writeing letters over the next few days...I am just sick

bonnie when you find out let me know, i want in on this too..

when I was able to work, i worked for a home care company, and my job was to market to drs.. ( tell them why my company was better then the 500 other companies providing home care services to the patients..

the problem is back in the 80's the insurance companies refused to pay to keep people in the hosp for as long as they needed to be there. the drs were forced to send patients home to soon, but they promised to give them home care to help them recover at home. then they started telling the patients you will recover fastwer in your own home. some times they did, this was good for all concerned. then insurance refused to pay for treatments and testing, saying there was no proof that it worked. we let them get away with that too. then we let the insurance copanies dictate what medications they would cover. now the insurance copmanies are dictating how much home care a patients gets.. they will only pay x amount of dollars for each illness, we must make patients sicker then they are on paper, to get them the help they need.. drs, hands are tied, because the insurance dictates to them what they can and can not do..I was working with a dr. on my run last fall when I got sick with fibro to make changes.. I live in michigan and its really bad here. patients are sent home from the hosp 3 days after having heart attacks, or by-pass surgery and home care doesn't want them because we don't make any money on those kind of cases.. its all about the F------, money.

home care has become pay for perforance, which means, provide better care with less visits..... please forgive my mis spelled words as i too have lost my brain and can't even write a decent letter any more, but thanks for the vent...

If you really feel like you want to get invoved find out you your Senators and Congessman is you need to know all your polititions.Also find out about state insurance what welfare is and isnt giving to the poorThere should be groups in your state that want Unversial health Care and make sure you vote for a president who has a new health plan for this country.Im involved with alot of groups that are trying to change healthcare not just in my state but everywhere....Bush just vetoed thr schip plan to give 8o,ooo kids free health care.You have to do research and you have to be aware of whats really going on........

I have been on the edge of awareness...knowing Something was not right...but not knowing what was wrong...i am sick of myself not standing up a long time ago...I am a stay at home wife these days...have nothing but time to research EVERYTHING...and this is what i will do...that movie has shamed me into action...

Good its never too late Believe me when i say ttheres along way to go and lots to be done

yes.and we ALL need to do it together !!!