#57 it was the first time I posted here & I didn't realiser it'd be so controversial. No history here at all, for me.

I am new here and this seems like the Jerry Springer forum. Almost wondering if I made a mistake. Cody1, you are wasting your time arguing and you should know that. My brother has bipolar disorder also and we can never disagree with him. I see your point but you should have stopped after your first comment a few pages back.

Sorry lou2, I do not see it your way. Others also disagreed with you on your take and you went on the offensive. I see cody1 as simply stating that you need not bring issues here when people are hurting and want to vent their feelings. Another said essentially the same thing. Cody1 said that you didnt like that and he was correct when you named names in here and had to reply to everyone that did not agree. I see everyone cody1 included that welcomes your comments but not your criticism as to how they coping with their partner.

I hope that this is not a foretaste of what is to come here. I really like to hear others that actually live with bps and their comments. Can we end this ugly debate pleez?

How did I criticise, was talking from my own experience, as most do. Sorry, that I offended. I still believe it was unnecessary to undermine me because I have bp...I am not in an episode cuurently, am stable.

in other forum I am in that is how we do threads, name different responses and pose answers then they can respond if they wish...wasn't an 'attack'

Is it right to say I have no place here? That's what offended me.

Cody said I was not welcome on this board, actually. See 'flame' post.

i will answer simply on what i see from his reply. Cody1 never once said that you are not welcome here as only you said that he said that. Read his reply again. He emphatically stated that you are welcome here adn he said that more than once. He was only commenting on your post alone and what he and others disagreed with you about. i personally do not see theire other comments elsewehre as negative as I have been peaking in here for a couple of weeks now. I have learnd so many thngs from these peopel by listening to their anger and pain. It actually comforted me and helped me deal with what I am experiencing with my bro.

Cody1 and others simply want you to respect their wish to vent whatever they like. Cody1 is right that you need to siimpy learn to disgree and move on. Who cares if they don't agree with you. There was one other gentlement that seemed bothered too by your comments so cody1 is not alone. Let these poor people vent and don't worry about how they talk about their fmaily and friends. It is their business and not yours.

This is from cody how discriminatory is it??? I have bp family members as well?




ust remember, as a bp you will always be considered by us as an outsider and someone that can never fully understand us as we can't fully understand you. You understand to a degree of what it is that we are going through. Would you like for us to invade the bp group community

I'm 'invading". Sit back and think how that sounds?

People who have bipolar are people too, so drop the attitude and accept I belong here as much as anyone..it's avery false and offensive to discriminate against me on such a basis. I'm sorry I caused offence but don't apologise for defending myself from such BS.

why do you keep insisting on draggin me in. You asked my opinion and i gave it.

Cody1 is calling you an outsider from the position that he is not bipolar but he equally and fairly places the same comment on himself as he refers to him as a outsider as well so you were never singled out alone in his comment. He is saying that to the extent he doesn't understnad bipolars is to the extent he thinks bipolars doesn't understand them. It was a fair statment and nothing insulting to you was stated.

He is telling you that your coming here and not liking what he and others are doing when talking about their family and friends can also go both ways here. people here can go to the bipolar forum and posts all their disagreements with how they seek to cope but he and the others don't is what he is driving at.

You misuderstood cody1 on that one. Cody1 did make a left handed comment to you that was inappropriate by saying that his wife is here. That was a demeaning comment but you are not innocent either as you had repeated replies in a row that was mud slinging on your part. Cody1 was trying to apologize to you. I think you both would do good to shake hands and let things go back to the way it was as this will do nothing to help anyone here. I am here to learn how to cope with my brother that is causing us pain and not here to play referee. Can we please stop?

I value and apreicate your member ship in this community Lou2 as someone with BP friends/family, but also AS SOMEONE WITH BP. Which makes me sad to say that i honestly feel a bit threatend by your presence here.
i don't want more drama
i don't want to argue, and i especially don't want to hurt anyones feelings.

in your origional post i did get a sence of what we had going in the "thankful" thread, and that is great. I do need to look at the positives as oftain as i can. However the last few lines of it did sit a little funny with me, and that is why i felt the need to justify my self here earlier.

But i spent my life justifying my right to FEEL. I do not need to justify myself anymore then you need to [or your membership here]. I am trying to do what i can to express as much as i can now, so that one day *crosses fingers* i won't have BP.

This thread has made me very nervous, and sad. i don't want to relive what i went through growing up, and what i am faceing in the next few months before i get on my feet. [moving back in with a violent/abusive untreated BP parent]

yes i know that i have issues, and i'm far from perfect. I don't want to nick pick anyones wording, and i don't want mine to be either. It scares me that this is going on here in this community. My "safe place". And yes, i'm sorry for this, but i am rightfully cautious of anyone with BP disorder. I can not express how MUCH it scares me.

I don't know how else to put it, but i do not exspect to see a rapist on the sexual abuse thread demanding acceptance b/c he/she was raped as a child. I have seen abusers come in and open there hearts and tell there story of how they were abused. And the community [my self included], whole heartly accepted, welcomed, an loved them through there steps towards a health life. They did not scare me...

And i'm so sorry to say that to you, but it is honestly how i feel, and i catch myself wanting to lash out in anger when i'm frightend. that is the most disturbing part. It seems like a few people here have had the same reaction. This is just an all around bad situation. I am not saying this to argue with anyone.... I want anyone reading this thread to know these things. And this is the last time i will post here.

I understand what your expressing. I think it's fair to say not every bp is like every other. I'll try not to stir up too much, if I do continue to be such a diificult presence, it's fine, I'll leave. I understand you have 'associations' and wish u luck working them out.

bit much likening those with bp with rapists, or whatever, but understand you are suffering.

finding this all a bit odd...have really good relationships & good communication with non bp family members...evidently this is not the case with most of y'all & you seem to see bp's as aggressors etc. Might be better if I did leave. all a bit toxic.

Fear normally leads to an anger anyways and is common for most anyone. A guy that pulls in front of you in traffic first scares the living piss out of you and then the anger because of that fear often leads to screaming and cussing at the ass that just cut you off. My son the other day fell down the stairs and it scared the hell out of me. My first reaction was to see if he was OK of course and then I was angry because he was playing on the stairs when I always told him not too and I was in complete terror watching him go down all of those stairs, so my fear turned to anger. I didn't yell at him but held him and kissed him.

This post started off OK and turned progressively worse. Tempers flared and things were said that shouldn't have been. Lou and I have mutually apologized and it is now a done deal. Two messaged me telling me that I was foolish for my repeated posts and trying to get a rise out of someone. Chandler posted a comment about my back handed comment and I fessed up. Lou proved to be the better person than me because she apologized first and that says a lot about her. I am very sorry for my comments and I would like for us to end this and move on if possible??