Oh dear.

Jazz...this is so true. I know that when I attempted suicide...my parents were sleeping..no note...no calls. Just me, a bottle and pills. I thank God now that my mom found me when she later went to the bathroom. I almost didnt make it and I cant imagine having missed out on having kids, getting married and living the life I have lived. But..at the time..I was determined that life for me was over on my terms. In my experience..there is no talking someone out of it. It is what it is. Offer support and hugs and be there...that is all we can do.

So true, jazzer!

I think that generally this is true Jazzer . . . and definitely a good point there about being unable to save a person that will stop at nothing to do it . . .

The one time I seriously considered suicide although others knew I was depressed I made sure I didn't say anything that even hinted at suicidal thoughts . . . I also considered the situation where I would be least likely to be found in time to save . . .I wouldn't have let a peep of my plans out . . .

Thank goodness I am no longer at that place and hope I never will be again . . . I am fortunate in that through my depression when I asked for help from family it was then I discovered how much I was loved . . . I couldn't do that to my loved ones.

I am so glad your Mom found you Pixie! God bless her and you dear. xx

I know this is a very delicate subject and I do respect all differences of opinions. This is my opinion but it is not black and white & subject to change based on future experiences.

I respectfully disagree... this reminds me of where that poor young boy climbed on top of a shopping centre, people below heckled him and he jumped. If someone's suicidal and they reach out to find out that nobody cares, they might do it. The one person I know who committed suicide in real life did leave a note to her husband and daughters. But her husband found it first and hid it and told his daughters she'd died of a brain aneurysm (they were grown up, but he still didn't want them to have the hurt of knowing she killed herself). I just think it's something that's not safe enough to predict.

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I attempted suicide when I was 19. I didn't tell anyone, though a lot of people knew that I was sad and going through a rough time. I didn't leave a note, didn't give a hint to anyone what I was planning on doing. After my roommate left for work and I was home alone, I went into the bathroom, sat in the bathtub, and slit my left wrist. I sat there for a minute watching the blood running down my arm before I started to take the knife to my other wrist. At that time, my sister let herself into the apartment and found me bleeding in the bathtub. She started yelling at me, I apologized, then was rushed to the ER. I was in recovery and therapy/counseling for a year. Things DID get better.

It's few and far between that I ever contemplate taking my own life...and I must admit, I really felt like I wanted to a few weeks ago. But rather than actually DOING it, I came on DS looking for people to talk me out of it. And yes, of course, you did. But had I not had a way of saying "I hate myself and I want to die" so that it could be heard and felt and sympathized with, I would have done it...or at least came close to doing so.

Thanks Jazz...I am thankful she found me too. My plan almost worked. They called my family in and told them that my kidneys had absorbed too much of the meds I had taken. I spent a week in the hospital and then off to a facility where I was dx possible bp. The one thing that I came out of it knowing to be true...we are all here for a reason. We may not know what that reason is...but not to get discouraged while we are trying to find our way. I cant count the number of lives I have touched or saved or offered help. Maybe my reason for being here was to let those people know that compassion and love was there.

After reading a post a few weeks ago about why are we here....I thought about my life and its purpose. I mean how am I making a difference sitting home in my pjs.lol I thought of my husband. No family that visit or call him. Maybe I was here to give him that family that he deserved. I think if we all look hard enough...we have made a series of purposes. sorry for hogging you post Jazz. Just felt like talking. I will step off the soapbox now.lol

Usually when you say, "not to..." you know it's exactly what your about to do. so "not to minimize" or anything but you need to realize that everyone's different.

Suicide notes/ calls/ whatever, should not be interpruted as non-threatening. Even if the person is NOT seriously a risk to themself they are obviously thinking about it. I'm guessing you are not qualified to make a judgement about a person's state of mind. You should not be so dismissive of people's feelings and you should not be so insensative to their thoughts.

Yeah, my nephew didn't ask for help, did leave it note, but it didn't leave any answers. Just goes to show you that the death of family members sometimes does not make sense. I am sorry for your pain jazzer, I can't imagine how that must of hurt. If you notice, at times I can not attempt to help suicidal threats, all I can do is say contact a professional. It cuts to close to home for me. It still hurts after 9 years.

Jazz, I agree on the point, if someone wants to really take their lives, they'll do it quietly. But if there is a way i can help talk them out, then i will try. It's for me not to get too emotionally involved. I'm trying to learn to help w/o getting too involved.

Aw well may as well do away with the crisis centre, the people posting in there are just depressed like us, they wouldn't be posting there if they wern't gonna kill themselves right?

I absolutely hate hearing all the cries "I want to die" from the same people all the time, or that they are going to commit suicide. BUT and only but, I realize that they must be hurting a whole lot to always think and feel that way. Even if it is for attention, makes me wonder if enough people got sick or the *wolf cry*, if someone would really do it... I dont want to take that chance..

If Im not in the spirit to help at the time, I will avoid it until Im up to try and help.. Either way, suicidal or not.. Its very sad to me.. Y'Vonne

Everyone's different though. No single person should be treated any differently with regard the severity of each case.

But I do think, as you say, those that have made up their mind to die will keep it to themselves so as not to hurt those around them beforehand. Doesn't mean others that are suicidal are less likely because they want people to know. They just want things to be different, but because they're not feel they have no choice. And being suicidal and reaching the decision to finish it are separate.