people on the other side of depression don't always understand it

We don't always understand how draining our depression can be on others,

it stinks

He is also apparently depressed, with S.A.D

Huh? That sounds awful

paul was hurt by it
paul was a tad insensitive
but how does paul feel in himself?
How are you?hugs xx

Also this was said:

Paul says:
do you have any idea how much you fucked with my head?
Paul says:
yes, you see, you say things like that - BUT
Paul says:
you leave me on ur msn deliberatley
Paul says:
hoping I'll talk!



I feel like shit.

what a flippin ass!! Don't you feel awful...Paul has problems and needs some help himself

I meant to say, you shouldn't feel awful because of him

Hmmmm im going to be completely honest and not dress it up... trying to commit suicde DOES fuck with peoples heads. Ive had someone do it as well and it sent me la la. I know that to attempt suicide your head has to be somewhere else but to the people that get left behind if people succeed, they have to live with that. When my ex tried and failed... at first i was upset and fell apart. Then i felt anger. Snger that he had put me and my kids and everyone that he knew through that. Yes I know he wasnt with it mentally at the time... but that wasnt anyones fault. I guess your friend Paul has had a huge shock and cant deal with it. There arent any books on dealing with things like that :)

i don't want to sound harsh but have you thought about how he may be feeling? a friend of mine tried to commit suicide and thank god she did not succeed but i am completely heartbroken. i'm not angry at her but at the same time i am extremely hurt. different people react differently to different situations. maybe this is his way of stopping himself from getting hurt anymore not that i condone the way he has spoken to you but maybe try to think about how he is feeling. it's not a personal attack i think just his way of dealing with it which i know doesnt seem fair or right right now. hopefully he'll come around.

I am not trying to minimize your pain in trying to commit suicide, but I can see where Paul is comming from. A very good friend of mine committed suicide, and as much as I missed her, I was pissed at her also. Suicide affects everyone, and maybe Paul does not know how to deal with the feelings he is having. You may think he is being insensitive, but maybe he is trying to protect himself from further pain, especially being that he himself has a form of depression.

I want you to know, I am glad you were not successful in your attempt, and I sincerely hope that the next time you feel that way, you are able to realize just how important you are, and how much losing you would affect others. This is comming from someone who has been through it.

maybe you just need to focus on more professional help. A cry for help is defintely being shouted loud and clear by you.

My fiance and I went around and around this for months, from January of 1999 until he was successful in August of 1999. It was draining. The night he did it was the ONE night I didn't pick up the phone....I was exhausted and knew how the conversation was going to go.

Did I feel awful, guilty responsible? yes, for a very long time, he wasn't honest with his psychiatrist or therapist, and sometimes friends and family members are not equipped to deal with depression long term

I agree with reply 8,9,10. I am glad that you are ok.

the truth is, people without depression don't understand anything about it. it's a shame sometimes i just want to strangle them and say:

"YOU DON'T GET IT AND YOU NEVER WILL, AND STOP ACTING LIKE U UNDERSTAND CUZ WE ALL KNOW U DON'T"

Sometimes, it's best not to say anything. Paul should have kept his mouth shut.

Sorry, but I think Paul had every right to say what he said. When, you make a decision you have to weigh the consequences. Maybe knowing how much you hurt someone will help keep you from doing it again. Sorry to be so harsh, but everyone deserves to say how they feel, even if you don't like it. PS please get some help