We have real demons we all battle---well, they might as well be demons, they're horrible things---and then, there are THE HATERS (Trolls). Maybe we should try and be on the same side?

i am sooo lost and so confused at the moment with what is going on. perhaps it should stay that way . . .

i have no idea whats goin on, i cant even follow right now

I don't believe you had anything to do with the missing profile, hon.

I really do think it would be better if "we" (whoever that is) could try not to hurt each other, and save that for the trolls.

I know your intent may not have been to hurt; and I also believe that you have been going through a good deal of pain yourself lately.

Your initial response, I really did see that as constructive criticism. Unfortunately there are times when we are better able to accept that, and times when we just fall apart at the littlest thing.

I just feel like I have enough attention to give to lots of people, spread it around. I don't mind if some days it's required by lots of folks. On days when I don't have it in me, I just don't read or respond.

Finally, I hate to see YOU in pain, just as I hate to see others in pain.

I respect and like you very much. This too shall pass.

from what i saw, that was all on her. she made her choice and is her own person so it is her call. i read the threads and i didn't see anyone ask her to leave or being cruel to her, ppl were honest but not at all mean. i did see her try to manipulate ppl (not the first time for that) and that hits a nerve with me. if she felt it was best to leave then so be it. i do not see any reason for you to be bashed over this kitter.

don't know what's going on here, but as soon as you accuse someone of manipulating people, aren't you doing the same thing? trying to influence them to your point of view?

nope....not really. cause i don't care if you agree so i don't care if what i said affects you at all just voicing my thoughts. however, what i saw her do was make a thread and when given some real advice that wasn't hand holding or agreeing with her, she got angry and started to lash out and made it a fight. instead of considering the advice and quietly deciding to take it or ignore it, she decided to make it all about her and how mean the other person was for not kissing boo boos. that is a classic example of emotional manipulation.

There's a difference between trying to persuade someone, and using emotional blackmail to get your own way, nodiram.

sounds fair as long as you don't object to people disagreeing if they feel they should

i am fine with agreeing to disagree but i am not fine with temper tantrums, especially from adults.

i am quite happy or people to disagree with me matey.....however, for this particular situation, I felt I had to do this to ensure there was no lingering ill feelings on the board.

I will accuse someone of being manipulative if they are trying to make me out to be a troll for stating my opinion...that type of behaviour IS manipulative, and is a way to create issues, and to create bad feelings amongst people.
Just to make it very clear, I was not sending hugs to people saying aww they all hate me, so I am goingo t remove my profile...or asking why everyone hates me.
....doign that sort of stuff draws more people into the drama, and automaticly creates a sense of victim for Rainstorm.

I would say everything agian in a heart beat. i have no regrets.

If someone is manipulative..dont be manipulated. we have choices and are responsible for those choices. When I feel manipulated, and at times I feel I have been, then I choose not to go along with it, or otherwise.. But the choice is mine. Ppl can learn much about themselves and can grow also by learning to deal with all kinds of pp;, rescuing them can hinder not help. hope this makes some sense

I think it would be nice to discuss these differences in opinion through personal means. I don't see how having multiple threads about some member disagreements is positive, or helpful for the rest of the board community.

i do agree with Jo, and for that I do feel bad for the posts I have doen inclusing this one...however, I was not about to send hugss to the multitude of people that were initaill contacted about me making people hate her...that would have been time consuming..and pathetic.

I have given the opporunity to end it here, get all the ill feeligns out, and hopefully after this thread that will be the end of it. At least on my end.