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firstly if your a religious person who might get uppitty about this convo please leave, im not here for arguments and critisim i want to sort this out in my head.
when i was 12 i became a wiccian which is like a modern witchcraft. i did and saw some pritty wild stuff as a wiccan that i am still unable to explain in a way that makes it unreal.
(try being haunted by an evil spirit and tell me spiders are scary!)
ive tried teling myself that it was all a figment of my imagination but all my friends went through the same stuff.
i got so scared at what i was seeing that i left my friends and religion and went off to boarding school. but i couldnt help thinking i was crazy. about a year or two later i saw the school councelor (also the christian education teacher) for this and ther issues i had at the time. when i finally worked up the courage to tell her this she told me everything i saw and did was real and it was the devil incarnating itself in me and what i expirenced.
needless to say that confused me a lot.
a year after that i began to see a dofferent councellor and when i also told her about this she told me that sometimes the mind sometimes sees what it want/expects to see and that none of what i expirenced was real!!
so now (five years down the track) im soooo confused, was it real or not
please help me
when i was 12 i became a wiccian which is like a modern witchcraft. i did and saw some pritty wild stuff as a wiccan that i am still unable to explain in a way that makes it unreal.
(try being haunted by an evil spirit and tell me spiders are scary!)
ive tried teling myself that it was all a figment of my imagination but all my friends went through the same stuff.
i got so scared at what i was seeing that i left my friends and religion and went off to boarding school. but i couldnt help thinking i was crazy. about a year or two later i saw the school councelor (also the christian education teacher) for this and ther issues i had at the time. when i finally worked up the courage to tell her this she told me everything i saw and did was real and it was the devil incarnating itself in me and what i expirenced.
needless to say that confused me a lot.
a year after that i began to see a dofferent councellor and when i also told her about this she told me that sometimes the mind sometimes sees what it want/expects to see and that none of what i expirenced was real!!
so now (five years down the track) im soooo confused, was it real or not
please help me
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theatre and I are there already. I'm having a very berry tea with crackers, cheese and cherry tomatoes and she's having a joint with some beer and we're both on really comfy recliners on thick pile carpet. we need some help with the decor if anyone is around??
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I'm trying to exercise daily. I was doing fairly well until I sprained my ankle 2 weeks ago but now I'm getting back on the horse. Today I walked over a mile with my arm weights that are about 22lbs total. I was out of shape and it was hard on my arms. I also did my 30 situps. I'm also going to drink a lot of water and try to eat healthy. I do tend to have a sweet tooth but I'm cutting...
The Christian church will teach that mystics, and witch craft is opening yourself up to trickery and demonic possession, I can believe that it happens
I also believe in a paranormal world, where everything is on that side is NOT evil....
I don't know what you saw, or how it was brought about
I also started in the wiccan religion years ago, but there was one ritual which used blood that I was not open to...and I moved on, it frightened me too much
I don't know if this helps any or not, but I don't think we do truly know what the spiritual world consists of but is only safe for the very very very wise to be able to discern if it is demonic or benign....
I can tell you what I think: I just became Christian (my parents are not religious) when I was in my early twenties, and over the years I've learned a lot.
You see, I think you really did see those evil things. Wiccans are not deriving their power from God, but from the devil. In the Bible, it says that God is the only one that can cast spells. Therefore, anything deriving weird spiritual power (like those evil things you saw) from something else than God is Satanic.
Satan tries as hard as he can to get you to believe things that are not "of God."
In my life, I've experienced God's power and I have also heard of what Satan can do to people, and of course I believe he has showed himself in evil ways, or even tried to get possess people.
When I was younger, I would have these weird things happen to me...one was some dark figure was holding me down in bed and I couldn't move. Nevertheless, I prayed to God with something I've heard works, and I wholeheartedly did believe he heard me.
Satan must ask God before He does anything to God's children. You have the power to say the next time you have something weird happen, or just for future protection, "In Jesus' name, I command you to go away," and at that point, nothing can harm you.
You do have to really believe in God, though. None of this is a joke. All I can say is that He has been there in ways that no one else could be there for me.
i went through a relationship where my bf told me what to do all the time and i swore i would never follow rules again if i didnt see a point to it or didnt want to. so i am open minded about religion but am not religious
I know it took me time.
and Satan comes as an angel of light
but I am not saying Wiccans are bad, it was not for me...I felt no peace
The issue as a therapy issue is that sometimes we just have to put a "question mark" on some things and know that we have some memory, but there isn't convincing evidence either way.
Often difficult events in childhood are the same way. What we say then was through that lense and we are considering those events NOW through an adult perspective.
I have a similar example from my past although a different scenario. I can't confirm 100% that it did happen. I finally got to a place that it doesn't matter. I could spend my entire life trying to prove that it happened -- or didn't.