you hate this girl for what she did to you? perhaps if you didn't do the same thing to the lovely dutch girl it would not have happened to you. what goes around, comes around. you got what you deserved for being a thoughtless cheater. and you should feel ashamed, your on the wrong site. you'll get no sympathy here. you need help.

...wait.

What she DID? To YOU?

No.

It's completely your choice to keep your penis in your pants.

It's called self control. Don't try blaming others because you can't keep your s**t straight.

Yes, it sounds like she has issues as well, but those don't excuse your actions.

WE all make mistakes, but maybe this is a pattern? You don't need to feel constantly like you are the victim, because in all honesty you sound like a bully. Still, learn to forgive yourself if you are sorry. Try to become a better person. Don't base your happiness on others, but work on yourself first.

Sounds like you've got yourself in a mess that only you can deal with. Sorry, no sympathy here.

You have got to be kidding, what did she do to you that you were not doing to your lovely Dutch girl, what you need to do is to take responsibility for your actions and not blame other people, you sound like you messed up big time, the sooner you admit it the sooner you will be able to put your life back into order, and hopefully not screw up if you are lucky enough to find someone new!!

I thought that I was missing something here, I read the title then reread the post. What? People keep hurting you yet you make terrible choices yourself? That is kind of like a cheater saying that the spouse made them cheat. Maybe you need to reevaluate everything that you think, reread your post and read the responses..especially HG's

you had a good chance of happiness second time around with the dutch lady.you and only you screwed that one up !!! now you know how she felt when you tossed her aside. you dont seem to bothered about the child you tossed away either.learn from your mistakes please.

Okay, I will probably get flack for this and who cares. You know what shit happens we all make mistakes and maybe everything wasn't so great with the dutch girl, maybe you weren't ready, maybe it just felt good to have another woman pay attention to you. Its exciting and adventurous. This sounds like you thought the grass might be greener on the other side and you were wrong. If you are sad and hurt and regretful this is good, it means you are learning from your mistake and now you need to forgive yourself and not make the same mistake in the future. Spend some time getting your life back on track then find another great woman and treat her like a queen!feel better

Get a grip on yourself man! You're like a pinball, bouncing all over the place. You can be in control of your life. You should be. You need to be alone until you find out who YOU are. Being alone is not bad. It takes getting used to, but it can be done. Only then will you be fit for another relationship. I'm just now becoming accustomed to being alone. And I know I'm not ready for a relationship yet. This post is known as tough love!

Wow, I had to read this four times before I got it straight. You had a daughter to add to your two lovely sons! You make it sound like you're amassing a china set! You took the daughter from dutch woman! What is that like taking the TV set? Then you tried to play house with a woman you work with who is married?

Yet YOU think people treat you bad! Pal you have earned it!

This sounds like stuff that my ex and the OW would say..I call it upside down thinking.

Now I'll be a little bit nice..

You broke someone's heart and fell for a married woman that lied and broke yours. That is about what you can expect when you mistreat people and participate in people mistreating others.

Be single for a while..try thinking rightside up ( counseling may be required) and maybe you will het VERY lucky and meet another wonderful girl.

You should try survivinginfidelity.com, they have boards for people like you, cheaters that want to whine about it. NO tears for you from me.

When a relationship ends, noome is solely to blame, so I am told. Both people contribute.
I think for your own sake you need to seriously consider looking at YOUR part of the problem. Get a counsellour. You need to deal with this. Otherwise you will repeat the same mistakes over and over, get hurt and hurt others.

"so I ended it with the Dutch girl and moved her and my daughter out"

WTF?!?!

you are really trying to make a case for the fact that you threw your "Dutch girl" and your daughter out like trash in order to roll around with the chick you met at work???

HGs post made the most sense.... but wow dude. WTF!!

Wait, could you give us the name of the dutch woman....she belongs here!