maybe he's just late?

i am so sorry -- no matter what the reason, you don't need unreliable right now, i know

Thanks Larry, I know you may be right, I guess I find it hard to trust people anymore.

Flake he's a flake...Move on he's a dud toad. I'm sorry he hurt you. He must have really got to you. You still seem so invested. Protect yourself until they prove worthy. I know it's easier said than done. That said I admire you for trying to even date. I'm no where close to even thinking about it. I'm sure my hubby will be married again before I even have a date!

Maybe he is hesitating for some reason??? Nervous about the way he looks ( do guys do that) or whatever??

I'd say this is his last chance..unless he can give you some really great reason for the stand-ups..and not do it again.

I think I know him..lol...dont give him the chance to do it again...you dont need someone to help you feel worse....only if they make you feel better do they get our precious time and attention lonely at times but its not worth sacrificing my self esteem...Ive worked too hard for it.

well, beyond 30-40 mins without any excuse.. Strike TWO

I would consider this a huge red flag and would tell him so if you ever do hear from him again. I mean, it's nice he called to apologize but something smells fishy with this. Unless he was lying in a ditch unconscious somewhere, it's hard to imagine not trying to get in touch with someone these days - with cell phones and all.

I, for one, would be interested in hearing what his excuse is. I sort of wonder if the guy's not married or in another relationship.

It sounds like he's married.

Maybe he is scared?

Dont play Games Baby, Move on, It is not your fault

Southpau, scared of what?

yeah scared of what.....so scared he doesnt care that he is hurting her feelings...back to my theme for the nite...selfish....his "fear" is more important than courtesy?

I know a couple guys like that. They end up being annoying and just downright stupid. I personally want to hang out with responsible, fun, smart people. It's time to listen to your gut. Is he worth this date? Oh, if you are dressed, go out on your own, take yourself out. I've done that. I had fun with myself! (and I didn't have to put out either)....

Someone here posted once about a giant red flag being if you start making excuses for the person within the first 3 dates.

If he's not showing up the first time you're supposed to meet in person, and then he arranges a time to call you and doesn't follow through, I just would figure he's either too busy, too much of a flake, or playing games.

Whichever one is the case, I think you probably don't need this crap right now.