Good post. I think that ppl will be astonished at who makes it in.I am with you I do not believe suicide is a sin I do not think God wants us to do it but i think he understands.

Your post is interesting but I don't ascribe any religious babel to suicide. I don't oppose suicide on religious means but due to logic and common sense. Not everyone wishes to frame their lives in religion so please accept that gently.

Dalmer, Hitler in heaven? Where are you getting your information? Or is this just something you think?

If we believe in the Bible then we must then accept the concept that the world we live in, our thoughts, our mind, our bodies our actions, the concepts we have are indeed warped, marred by sin. Therefor it is near impossible for us on our own to have an understanding of heaven, hell, the nature of God, even what love is on our own accord. It becomes a matter of faith. Faith that the almighty will show us, give us that knowledge in its true light. We as christians believe that He has done this through the Bible. Yet, there are so many different ideas, concepts out there. So who has the truth? The Bible speaks of a concept an idea that no one sin is worse than another and that indeed all have fallen short and sinned. Jesus expands this and shows that sin is not just the physical action of doing something. You don't actually have to have intercourse to commit adultery if you think it you did it. Therefor more likely than not we have all fallen short on all of the ten commandments at one time or another based on this concept of thought sin. So if so sin is worse than another. If we have all fallen short on all ten of the commandments. Then it is safe to assume that we are all on an equal playing field when comes to sin. We are all equally bad, all equally evil. Thus we are no different than the likes of Hitler or Dalmer according to the Bible! Though the Bible does say God is a Forgiving God. It says that If we confess our sins He is faithfull and just to forgive us our sins... While crucified on the cross one of the men, some say he was a thief, who cares he was human therefore a sinner, begs Jesus for forgiveness...Jesus responds with...You will be with me in paradise...on his death bed so to speak this man cries out for forgiveness and we see it was granted to him. SO Iif we believe the Bible it shouldn't matter what someone has done God may still have forgiven them.

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Again I wonder where you all are getting your info. If there is no hell then maybe no heaven? We must be careful not to twist or make up biblical scripture to tickle our ears. If we are going to post about God's word we may want to say it's what I made up that sounds right to me.

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Artemis..what religion were you broght p in?
I find t odd tobelive in Heavan,a place of reward and Peace,but not in a belief in a Hell,a place of punishment.

P.S.I never assume to know where one person or the other will end up..I am not JUDGE...God does that.

But I am curious as to your religious upbringing.(no bashing here ,just curiosity)

Hell..ok this is y view of hell. Let's first take a look at how God has handled sin in the pat when it has gotten out of control. He has flooded the world...horrible way to die drowning, but not suffering terribly long.

Soddom and Gommorah...God rained down a pillar of fire and reduced the cities to ash. It was Quick!!!

I believe that when the Bible says that those whose names are not written in the Lambs book of life will be cast into eternal fire, it does not mean that they are going to have the sensation of being burned of being on fire for all of eternity. I feel this means that they will be burned up, consumed, destroyed...eternally. Never to come back. It will be quick and permanent. This is how God dealt with sin in the past and how He wil most likely deal with it in the future. Remember God is stable, he does not have Bipolar disorder and is not subject to quick mood swings or shifts in personality.

Lindel, you said a mouthful! We must indeed be careful not to twist Scripture to support our own beliefs! That is very treacherous ground that leads to nothing but pain, hence the warning in Revelation to those who would "add or take away" from the Bible. Religion, in general, is always going to be a hot topic. As a Believer, I have learned that I need not always express my opinion or interpretation of the Word and it's truths. I need only to encourage others to seek the TRUTH themselves. Though cliche, the truth WILL set you free!

I know all too well how this illness can skew our minds... convince us that NOTHING short of death can bring us peace. I love you all, and it is my sincerest prayer that regardless of your beliefs, you would find something that justifies living. Much Love~

I was brought up in the United Church of Canada it is a mixture of all the methodists, some prespyterian and some bapists. It was formed in 1917 during the first world war. It's goal was to unite all religions

There goes me going to Hell. All the fun people are up in Heaven so Hell will be empty.

Hold it, that means I can live a life full of sin, corruption, murder and mayhem. And after all of that I will still go into the same heaven as all the good Grandmas who religiously go to church and try never to sin?

That would mean there is no justice in Heaven? Hmmmm, who am I to say?

Artemis ..the Bible calls suicide "self murder" . Im not sure if you read a different Bible than I , but the jist is asking Jesus into your heart to be saved from the sins we have commited. We are all sinners ..but our slates arent clean untill we accept Jesus into our lives , and live for him. Follow him as an example. I was actually watching a show on Discovery channel last night about near death experiences and there are 1,000's of people that have seen hell ..I believe it does exist because the Bible says it does.

I think that God does indeed UNDERSTAND because only he can see into our hearts,but ,dont over look the ten commandments where written in stone ,thou shall not kill .