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Sorry guys, but, I had to post a new thread, re: Otterheart's posting. I expect alot of flack from this posting, so we might as well get it all in one package! And get it out in the open.
So, Otterheart has climbed the mountain and returned with the tablets of humanity.
First off, man is a commodious (re: ample or adequate for a particular purpose) creature. We are compelled to create, but, we're controlled by our own creations! Where would you be without your t.v., car, bus, house, whatever! We created them for a purpose. But, we still have to work to pay for the gas, the electricity, whatever!
Reality is not experiences. We all live within our own little boxes. That's our reality. With experience comes knowledge. Knowledge is one of our greatest tools!
As far as choices go... that is a god-given right. What you do with those choices governs your reality. But, remember: For every action, there is an equal and opposite re-action!
If you need to post notes on your fridge door, post this: Life is the greatest gift given to you, use it wisely!
BP's have been burdened with a disease that atacks your creativity, your morals, your self-esteem, your self- confidence, the bowels of your soul. I don't need to be reminded that I have to fight every day of my life to maintain them. You're wasting your life if you just "fence sit" and watch the world go spinning by. You fight with whatever means you have! Tooth and nail! BP is a battleground!
Otterheart has "found the power". That's fantastic! It's one less person we have to worry about. Otterheart is one of the few people capable of living "outside the box". I congratulate her! But, she's being extremely optimistic if she thinks we can all do the same! BP takes no prisoners.
So, Otterheart has climbed the mountain and returned with the tablets of humanity.
First off, man is a commodious (re: ample or adequate for a particular purpose) creature. We are compelled to create, but, we're controlled by our own creations! Where would you be without your t.v., car, bus, house, whatever! We created them for a purpose. But, we still have to work to pay for the gas, the electricity, whatever!
Reality is not experiences. We all live within our own little boxes. That's our reality. With experience comes knowledge. Knowledge is one of our greatest tools!
As far as choices go... that is a god-given right. What you do with those choices governs your reality. But, remember: For every action, there is an equal and opposite re-action!
If you need to post notes on your fridge door, post this: Life is the greatest gift given to you, use it wisely!
BP's have been burdened with a disease that atacks your creativity, your morals, your self-esteem, your self- confidence, the bowels of your soul. I don't need to be reminded that I have to fight every day of my life to maintain them. You're wasting your life if you just "fence sit" and watch the world go spinning by. You fight with whatever means you have! Tooth and nail! BP is a battleground!
Otterheart has "found the power". That's fantastic! It's one less person we have to worry about. Otterheart is one of the few people capable of living "outside the box". I congratulate her! But, she's being extremely optimistic if she thinks we can all do the same! BP takes no prisoners.
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Sorry, that is gruesome and I don't really subscribe to it, but I can identify with the "feelings" it generates.
I won't contribute anything else since I am very tired. And need to get ready to go to a board meeting of DBSA in Northern VA.
That was a bit negative and I do actually agree with some of Otterheart's stuff - just needs to be balanced. I also agree with allot KH has said. The impact of this illness is real and all the "positive" talk just doesn't make it go away.
POSITIVE THINKING rather than negative thinking is a great means to fight with.
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"Knowledge is one of our greatest tools!"
Researching and finding ways and trying them to battle is how we gain knowledge.
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"BP's have been burdened with a disease that atacks your creativity, your morals, your self-esteem, your self- confidence, the bowels of your soul. "
"burdened" - negative
Positive thinking can help to overcome this negative feeling. I understand all you say here because I once felt like that myself. When I began to feel positive about myself and pushed away the negative thoughts of myself that had been instilled within me, I realized that I COULD sing, I AM pretty, I know right from wrong and if I choose to do wrong it is by choice and if I want something I have to believe that I can get it. If I think negatively, I can do nothing. For me, I believe in the WORD. Through HIM I can do ALL things.
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"We are compelled to create, but, we're controlled by our own creations! "
We create...I sing, act, paint, cook, etc. For my creations to be good I think positively. I controll the outcome. They do not control me.
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"But, we still have to work to pay for the gas, the electricity, whatever!"
Nothing good in life comes easy. It takes work.
David Meece, Early in the Morning.
Early in the morning
Hope soared nearly to the sky
Early in the morning
Yet that first hope nearly died
With so little warning
The good young King was crucified
Early in the morning
In the stone cold tomb He lay
Early in the morning
Laid with Him the hope of day
Early in the morning
Saints and angels fearful, pray
Yearning for a dawning
Breaking on the silent grave
Early in the morning
Alleluia
O the bright dawn breaks
Alleluia, alleluia
Alleluia
O the sweet King wakes
Alleluia, alleluia
Long the anxious claws had gripped
Early in the morning
Now vanquished claws have slipped
Early in the morning
How the bragging dragon trips
Head, so high, now fawning
Mouth, denied, forever drips
Early in the morning
Alleluia
Empty claws proclaim
Alleluia, alleluia
Alleluia
Now the good King reigns
Alleluia, alleluia
Steady in the waning night
Early in the morning
Risen Morning Star our light
Early in the morning
Dragons breed again to fight
Fearful is their taunting
Yet, we trust, Lord, thy great might
Early in the morning
Alleluia
Saints and angels sing
Alleluia, alleluia
Alleluia
Praise the risen King
Alleluia, alleluia
You fight with whatever means you have! Tooth and nail! BP is a battleground!
Otterheart was just a little bit optimistic. Not everyone can follow in her footsteps. It can be quite frustrating, at times!
I have no idea why I am still standing kicking and detirmined to go on. Grace?
Sometimes I feel like Mr. Magoo. clueless to the dangers all around me.
I know longer believe I will find "love" in this life, My kids will be grown and gone soon.
I think I will go to India and serve in mothere Theresa's home for the dying for a while. That would be a most excellent wake up call and important work to do.
and this discussion is KH vs. furry pawed me? Here! anck! I just bit your little toe!
Who wants to have a Memorial Day BBQ at my house today? Virtual of course.
Love ya.