Back Pain Support Group
Back pain is one of the most common reasons people seek medical care. In fact, about 3 in 4 adults will experience back pain during their lifetime! The term back pain includes pain affecting the neck, midback and low back. Acute back pain may begin suddenly with intense pain but typically lasts fewer than three months. Usually, chronic back pain is persistent, steady, and...
Lower Back Pain(LBP) is a complicated condition.
The "bulged disc" scapegoat blame all is such a joke.
The disc is easy to see on MRI/CT/ x-ray disc space.
What you don't see is all of the other stuff.
If you had a disc injury 2+ years ago, it is no longer the disc.
The disc started the problem, due to faulty biomechanics, but it certainly IS NOT the primary cause years later.
Think about it:
Take your biceps.
bend your elbow up then tape it in a full flexed position for three days.
what happens when you try to straighten your elbow?
It would be very stiff.
Now leave the elbow bent for 2-3-4+ years.
No longer are you dealing with biceps muscle.
You now have a compromised,anemic,
scar tissue infiltrated,yucky mess!!
What do you think happens to all of those TINY ligaments and muscles located in your spine??
The majority of the low back muscles are SMALL not large.
The intrinsic spinal muscles STABILIZE the spine they DO NOT MOVE the spine.
(Dissect a chicken back-bone sometime)
How many Low Back surgeries do think are done in the Amazon Rainforest??
Don't the natives walk on 2-legs?
Why don't they have surgery?
Because they rest the back for a short period of time then they.....MOVE!!
Stretch, traction(the Back Bubble) pool work,
soft-sand walking, light weights.
Rehab sucks.
It is soooo, so slow.
It cannot be completed in 12 PT treatments (2X/week for 6 weeks)
"You must be better...your insurance ran out!!"
watch this:
Jan 1 2007 you hurt your back
Jan 15 you go to the Dr with LBP = RX of Motrin
Jan 17 x-rays taken
Jan 30 MRI
Feb 25 return to the PCP = Vicodin /Motrin
Mar 15 sent to Physical Therapy
Mar 25 eval and appts set 2x/week for 6 weeks
May 25 Return to PCP,PT no good,= Rx, refer
Jul 15 Neurologist refer to PAIN MANAGEMENT
Sep 15 Pain management specialist
etc.
etc.
etc.
I think you get my point.
After 9.5 months and no REAL Treatment.
1 year later you are in the:
"Pain Management Wastebasket"
PT = 1 hour session 2X per week = 2 hours/week
24 hours/ day X 7 days = 168 hours /week
less 56 hours for sleep
less 40 hours for work
less 10 hours commute = 62 hours for REHAB
Q:
How many of you are doing 20-30 hours of rehab per week????
A:
NONE
I highly recommend pool work, walking and light exercise, and the Back Bubble(www.backpainrelief.com)
Your spine is a lifelong event.
I am on 26 years of DAILY low back exercise.
I don't like the alternatives
If MRI's are so revealing, then why do 60% of the MRI's show disc distortions but NO LBP!!
Talk to a radiologist sometime.
Take a radiologist to lunch.
(Be prepared to have "jaw drop")
I did.
That's where I learned a lot of this BS that patients are being fed..
What to do?
DO NOT be such a WHIMP.
Get MAD.
Suck it up
Get a 1:1 trainer
spend 20-30 HOURS per week on your spinal condition for 12 MONTHS...then do surgery if you still need it.
try a GooGle search:
Association between peri-dural scar and recurrent radicular pain after lumbar discectomy......
Normal MRI and bulged discs.......
The "bulged disc" scapegoat blame all is such a joke.
The disc is easy to see on MRI/CT/ x-ray disc space.
What you don't see is all of the other stuff.
If you had a disc injury 2+ years ago, it is no longer the disc.
The disc started the problem, due to faulty biomechanics, but it certainly IS NOT the primary cause years later.
Think about it:
Take your biceps.
bend your elbow up then tape it in a full flexed position for three days.
what happens when you try to straighten your elbow?
It would be very stiff.
Now leave the elbow bent for 2-3-4+ years.
No longer are you dealing with biceps muscle.
You now have a compromised,anemic,
scar tissue infiltrated,yucky mess!!
What do you think happens to all of those TINY ligaments and muscles located in your spine??
The majority of the low back muscles are SMALL not large.
The intrinsic spinal muscles STABILIZE the spine they DO NOT MOVE the spine.
(Dissect a chicken back-bone sometime)
How many Low Back surgeries do think are done in the Amazon Rainforest??
Don't the natives walk on 2-legs?
Why don't they have surgery?
Because they rest the back for a short period of time then they.....MOVE!!
Stretch, traction(the Back Bubble) pool work,
soft-sand walking, light weights.
Rehab sucks.
It is soooo, so slow.
It cannot be completed in 12 PT treatments (2X/week for 6 weeks)
"You must be better...your insurance ran out!!"
watch this:
Jan 1 2007 you hurt your back
Jan 15 you go to the Dr with LBP = RX of Motrin
Jan 17 x-rays taken
Jan 30 MRI
Feb 25 return to the PCP = Vicodin /Motrin
Mar 15 sent to Physical Therapy
Mar 25 eval and appts set 2x/week for 6 weeks
May 25 Return to PCP,PT no good,= Rx, refer
Jul 15 Neurologist refer to PAIN MANAGEMENT
Sep 15 Pain management specialist
etc.
etc.
etc.
I think you get my point.
After 9.5 months and no REAL Treatment.
1 year later you are in the:
"Pain Management Wastebasket"
PT = 1 hour session 2X per week = 2 hours/week
24 hours/ day X 7 days = 168 hours /week
less 56 hours for sleep
less 40 hours for work
less 10 hours commute = 62 hours for REHAB
Q:
How many of you are doing 20-30 hours of rehab per week????
A:
NONE
I highly recommend pool work, walking and light exercise, and the Back Bubble(www.backpainrelief.com)
Your spine is a lifelong event.
I am on 26 years of DAILY low back exercise.
I don't like the alternatives
If MRI's are so revealing, then why do 60% of the MRI's show disc distortions but NO LBP!!
Talk to a radiologist sometime.
Take a radiologist to lunch.
(Be prepared to have "jaw drop")
I did.
That's where I learned a lot of this BS that patients are being fed..
What to do?
DO NOT be such a WHIMP.
Get MAD.
Suck it up
Get a 1:1 trainer
spend 20-30 HOURS per week on your spinal condition for 12 MONTHS...then do surgery if you still need it.
try a GooGle search:
Association between peri-dural scar and recurrent radicular pain after lumbar discectomy......
Normal MRI and bulged discs.......
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I gave my 2 week notice last Friday 13th. Now to join you fine people in a life of leisure and nothing else to do but to look out for myself....is it just me or does that sound pretty boring? My goal was to live to retire and I guess having to take early retirement because of health reasons wasn't exactly the way I had planned things. I just can't stay in that building that is reeking mildew...
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Has anyone tried these supplements? Do they give MGers more quality of life by improving memory and overall well being?Thanks!Barbel
"Physical rehab Hurts Daily"
What is it like to climb
Mt. Everest??
Can you read about it?
Study the Mountain?
or DO IT?
Go to a spine specialist who has the same problem.
Like for Like.
My buddy who is an amputee above the knee, found another surgeon, amputee above the knee, to reshape the femur an fit a new prothesis.
guess what?
It fits perfectly.
DO NOT CUT!
20-30 hours PER WEEK, of rehab for 12 months.....then you can talk Cut....
anything less, you are not serious about getting better.
Orel Hirshizer, Dodger pitcher, spent 7 hours per day/7 days per week for 12 months to rehab a shoulder the "experts" said would never throw again.
He threw for two more years.
I saw him throw 95 MPH fast balls with a rehabed/rebuilt shoulder
nuff said
surfdog
and
re-read
this post is on the recommendations section
I must be the ONLY
"crack-pot" on these posts,
that talks about movement
Pain requires:
rehab first,
Rx second,
surgery last
when your bowel and bladder control is poor then surgery.
surfdog
I agree with so much of what you've said. You also made me think about some new things.
Good post.