Mike don't be to hard, some peope drink becuse of a close problem, say berevement, with a little counselling they can get back on track.

Drink dependance is a totaly different story.

I agree that people come here because they have a drink problem, but not a 100% have reached the full blown alcholism thing.

Lets not scare them away

Trickey

lol,alcoholism is a scarey subject i don't sugar coat stuff.

I am just saying if there in here asking if they are alcoholic they probably are. lol

Don't get me wrong, I would say that 95% of the time your theory is spot on.

But there are exceptions and I wish there were more.

Interesting thread a few more replies would be good.

Not for us to judge, just give help and guidance I feel.

trickey

ok

i can c both of ur points of view here. mike u can come off a lil "grrrr" when there r those ppl who dont need "grrr" when they come acrossed this site for whatever THERE reasons. i do agree tho that if it walks lika duck, quacks lika duck-well then....its probably an alcoholic! perhaps some ppl who r just realizing but not yet accepted there problem, may prefer someone a lil less "grrr" like, oh say, trickey!

lol thanks for sharing.

Reply 6 yep tanks for sharing, a duck is a duck, well most of the time, do you remember the story, "There was once an Ugly Ducking"

LOL

Trickey

"normal drinkers" don't question if they are alcoholic. there has to be a reason why you would even question it. it is what it is.
i don't think mike is being to hard. not drinking can save your life and if being in your face about it saves your life that's all that matters. 12 step programs teach you to be here for a suffering alcoholic and you do the best you can. some people smooth those rough edges with time. i've been around oldtimers ever since i came into aa, and they did not sugar coat anything. sometimes they just hurt my feelings period. but i'm still hear. if you want to stay sober you'll meet all kinds of people. some in your face and others not so blunt. but in the end we are here to help each other stay sober one day at a time.

so youre an expert mike tell me more im only a baby:))

I agree with you mike, but trickey has a point about scaring people off. It's also scares people when the only answer they get is go to AA.

ok you win im a f..in ALCOHOLIC ! wow i said it phew.... :))

Keep coming back i have a point to. scaring ppl you guys are little bit dramatic don't you think????

reply #10 there are no experts. I only know what keeps me sober. take care.

Thought this might be a good thread, nothing like chucking the Cat amonst the Pigeons and see how things go.

My feeling is thus, people come to this site often as there first port of call, I came to one similar a long time ago.

They may know nothing of AA and the first thing they hear is "go to a Meeting" or "go to the rooms", how the hell do they know what we are talking about, rather than help them we may be sending them back into the Abys.

Also it is a medical fact that it can not only be dangerous but it can be lethal for some to come instantly of the grog.

So just to say " Its easy, stop drinking, go to the AA" could be a life sentance for some.

Were not experts here, just caring Alcoholics that wish to help, I feel that we have to be carefull how we approach things, and welcome people at whatever stage they are at, I find that other sites fall down by not doing this.

Someones life could be at stake, we should give them the respect that they need.

trickey