take a second look at your 4th step..... if you don't find anything there, YIPPEE for you...

Search your heart and do what you know is right. If you have no amends, then you have no amends.
Except maybe to yourself?
Who knows.
Sometimes we think we don't hurt anybody, but think about it.
Did you do the best job you could've at work? Did you miss a lot of days from drinking? That might be an amend you don't want to verbally expose to your boss but you could make amends by doing an extra better performance.
Just things like that to possibly think about. How about your Ma and family. Did you ignore them in your isolation? Not trying to put a guilt trip on you just giving you some possibilities.
There is no one on this earth that does not need to make amends to somebody, whether an alkie or not.
We all do things we regret.

you dont have to do anything! spose nothing will change though??

You say you didnt say mean things to people whilst drunk but how about when you were sober?

If you had or have parents you owe amends. If you had/have siblings you owe amends.
If you had/have friends you owe amends.
If you have had relationships you owe amends.

You get the idea. If you can't hink of why then you nedeed to do a new 4th and 5th step probably with somebody different than the last one.

I think even if you were a nice drunk you were cheating people around you from getting to be with "you". And like Reed said, I think that most alcoholics owe their parents a "sorry" as I doubt we got by not hurting them by drinking. Even if your parents weren't there physically, I am sure at some level they knew. Sheez, I owe an apology to my dog, seriously. I did not walk her enough.

I was a nice overall drunk too (albiet nuts), but not truly there for people. I also got quite nasty hungover and would blow people off. That is worthy of an apology imo.

This may sound cruel, but I think you are still in denial. It is quite common for people working the steps to run in to a road block while making their list and making amends. Many times they go back out at this point. The steps where designed this way to help you with complete acceptance of who and what you are.

ok, to be honest, this is what i expected to be said: you're more fucked than you know and you've fucked others more than you know.

this idea, which i see as prevalent in aa, is part of what makes me unsure of it as a place for me. it seems to me, and has been reinforced by comments here, that, if you don't think you're shit, you're not being honest.

i really have to wonder if aa isn't solely for low-bottom drunks b/c i cannot relate to so many of the stories i hear in the meetings. i got out of drinking problematically early--before the "yets" happened to me. how can i owe my parents amends--they've never been affected by my drinking, nor has my best friend, not has my ex-wife. so how do i owe something to someone that was never even there. it seems, judging from the comments, that my idea was right about--well, since we did so much shit to so many people, then you, being a drunk, must have done some of the same stuff.

i don't know how many of you have listened to the joe & charlie tapes/cds. but, at one point, the black guy said that he took back money given to him at a store b/c the clerk had miscounted the change-he made a point of saying that he gave it back b/c he was a member of a group that required rigorous honesty of its members. when i heard this, i though, shit, aa has nothing to do with your being a dishonest person in all of your affairs--if, w/o, he'd have kept the money, it's not that aa "showed him the light," it's that he was a dishonest, deceptive person with or without alcohol, with or without aa

that's just an example of a sense i've gotten it some meetings that people feel like they owe so much to aa, when, in fact, they are/were just shitty folks to begin with but now have to realize just how shitty they were/are. so, i've got to wonder, is aa just for shitty people who happened to be drunks, or is it for drunks, who may or may not have been shitty people before they began drinking?

AA can help shitty people and non shitty people. It is not my thing anymore, but I was shitty at the beginning of recovery especially and some people there helped me screw my head back on.

I think basically that human beings do well keeping their conscience clean and apologizing when they should. I have to say that I am the person I need to forgive most. I was really shitty to myself.

I don't know many people who are not crappy once in a while. Addiction makes you even worse. Good to face this. I don't think this is where it ends, these twelve steps, but it is a good start for anyone, alki or not.

AA can help shitty people and non shitty people. It is not my thing anymore, but I was shitty at the beginning of recovery especially and some people there helped me screw my head back on.

I think basically that human beings do well keeping their conscience clean and apologizing when they should. I have to say that I am the person I need to forgive most. I was really shitty to myself.

I don't know many people who are not crappy once in a while. Addiction makes you even worse. Good to face this. I don't think this is where it ends, these twelve steps, but it is a good start for anyone, alki or not.

You need to make an amend to yourself,The person you harmed the most was yourself. Get back in the race, the humanrace. Yea!

Don't forget the part where you have to make amends to yourself. If you ever have been in a black out, you may not know about the amends lmao.

This is actually pretty funny! I was/am a shitty people who drank and am trying to not be as shitty now just by keeping my mouth shut more! LOL! And of course not drinking!
I think, on a more serious note, that if you have amends to make then you will make them. If not then you won't.
I personally think you have to work the steps the way they benefit you for staying sober. This attitude in not popular around the tables nor is the idea that God does not keep me sober. I make a choice every day, well when I think about it anyway, to not drink. You have to believe in something for it to work for you.
I keep it simple. I believe in AA as a whole.
Good luck.

You have never been selfish, dishonest, self-seeking, inconsiderate or fearful in your life? You have never made decisions based solely on self? Don't forget that being self-centred also means we are completely unaware of others - let alone knowingly hurt them.

It sounds to me like you weren't 100% honest in your step 4 or were unable to see how threats to your instincts caused you to rely on the defects mentioned above to survive or get what you want.

PS - go up to someone close to you and make amends for what you think you did (small things) and give them free rein to give you feedback on any way at all that you hurt them.

Their response may open your eyes a lot - my amends have been very humiliating and humbling in that respect - I wasn't even aware of half the shit I did to people.