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Alcoholism is the continued consumption of alcoholic beverages, even when it is negatively affecting your health, work, relationships and life. If you think alcohol is causing you to lose control, it's time to seek help. Our group is a safe place to vent, check in, get back up if you fall, and reach sobriety.

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Hi - I want to go to an AA meeting but my life is bereft of "God" a "Superior Being" and therefore I am worried that I will not relate. I try to pray, out loud, "I feel a fool" in my head "no feeling of connection" (not that I have any when I "pray" outloud.
I so WANT to connect but try as I may I can't - anyone out ther who has felt the same, and changed and can explain toan idiot how ?
I so WANT to connect but try as I may I can't - anyone out ther who has felt the same, and changed and can explain toan idiot how ?
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Whta I have come to learn through reading Spiritual Experience ans We Agnostics in the AA "big book" is that,, i m not God and He does not present direct answers to my prayers usually..
Whta i learned to do, was just get in the habit of requesting help from Him to give me "the pause" before my mouth shot off ..or i made some kind of rash decision..
If i had a day without strife and no booze.. i just said Thank You God..see You in the morning..
My first sponsor also told me..i should NOT expect a "conscious contact" with God , in my case, since i was only at step 2 and had HUGE resistance towards any religous rituals..
He told me. that whn i had completed the first 9 steps,, i would definately feel a connection ..he was right..
I do have a connection that is as present as electricity is in my living room.
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Anyway, you don't have to believe in a deity. I think of the group and the wisdom of others as higher powers, as do the other agnostics mentioned above.
I've been to many many A.A. meetings and I sometimes have felt the need to say I'm an agnostic when discussing something like Step 3 or 11, and then I say what the step means to me, and I have never, ever been even in the least criticized or even suggested that having the Group as a higher power wasn't good enough.
By the way, most atheists / agnostics / non-theists find the "We Agnostics" chapter in the Big Book (chapter 4) to be especially demeaning to us, saying that we have not yet matured spiritually and that we're "vain" and "fooling ourselves". We respectfully disagree. We think he is a bit "vain" and "fooling himself" that his opinion on these matters is the right one. At least I don't smoke let alone smoke myself literally to death, have mistresses, or drop acid like the author of that chapter did in his "sober" years, and neither do any of the agnostics I know. Take what you like and leave the rest.
You might check if there are any Agnostic A.A. groups in your area -- besides being a refuge to those who find A.A. literature and most groups to be too religious -- it is often a place where those who find most A.A. groups to be too rigid and dogmatic go to.
http://www.agnosticaa.org/
You might explore alternatives to A.A.
http://members.aol.com/r2135/alternat.htm
Myself, I go to an Agnostic A.A. group, a non-A.A. addiction recovery group (its one of a kind, not part of any national organization), and one regular A.A. group that is relatively dogma-free and particularly careful to respect all varieties of belief and non-belief.