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nicoleacola32
Female, 33, novi, MI
"i'm doing better"
6:59pm, September 3, 2009
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Saturday, August 29, 2009 | A General Update story
Well I ended up calling my friend to see if he got home ok.He didn't sound like he was appologizing and I just said I had to let him go i had another line and hung up.I'm hurt and angry.I've been there for him but when I need somebody nobody's around.I don't need to be treated badly and I have to stick up for myself even if it means leaving the friendship alone for now.I am trying to learn boundaries and he doesn't understand that sometimes it is about me.I have very bad self esteem and want to call him again but I am resisting and letting him come to me.Leaving me alone was hurtful and even though I understand his breakup is hurting him I can't deal with bad behavior.He has bipolar and is not taking his meds.I am concerned but also trying to stop being so codependent and enabling.
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  1. weinere46

    Dear Nicole,
    Stop, your enabling him now, and then he hurts your feelings! Yes, I would go to the same lengths as you but this does not sound at all like a friend, break up, meds or not! You need to separate people into three categories, friends, acquaintances and enemies. Each deserves a different type of behavior. He would fall into an acquaintance and you are going to far and getting to upset for a mere acquaintance!!!!! Eric


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  2. SFWriter

    I agree with Eric. Do not stay in contact with those who hurt you. Disconnect from all negative people in your life. You will find that this empowers you and makes a HUGE difference. I learned to do this. It was a hard lesson to learn, but I finally woke up. My life has been so much better since then. Remember, NO negtive people, I don't care who they are! Just DETACH. If it's a relative, just have very, very minimal contact.
    Best Wishes,
    Judith


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  3. al4w67

    Hey... I just wanted to say that your words basically sound like something I could have written in my own journal. I was constantly always there for my bipolar best friend, but now she has decided that she hates me and completely dropped me from her life because I remind her of stuff that she doesn't like/can't accept about herself. If you're ever feeling like nobody's there to talk to, and none of your other friends understands or something like that, totally feel free to send a message my way or find me on the chat or whatever.
    -Jen


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  4. Tobey008

    BiPolar is no fun for victim ,friend or family all in his vicinity suffer along with him. It's up to you to take it for what it is or walk away. But if you remain his friend know that you cannot count on him only be there for him its a one sided deal most of the time.


    Tobey008

a friendship is over i'm devastated Mood
Saturday, August 29, 2009 | A Call For Help story
I'm devastated.I went to sing Karaoke with my best friend and 2 other people i'm friends with.My friend was really upset because he broke up with his girlfriend and I tried to cheer him up.He was saying before what a good friend I am,but when he went to the bar it was getting late and my other friend was singing then we were going to leave. He said to me "I hate this i'm leaving." I said as my friend is done singing we are going to go.He got up and left me alone. I don't drive and I had to ask my other friends to take me home.I was so upset I couldn't stop crying when I got home.He has bipolar disorder and is not on his meds but that is no excuse for leaving me.Am I wrong to think this friendship is over. I mean leaving someone who doesn't drive at a bowling alley.I am so upset and even though I'm worried about him I am furious and wondering if this friendship is even worth saving.Help!!
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  1. MSNOW

    I'd let some time pass before you make a decision. Friends are valuable and they make mistakes. I've learned that friends change and often grow in other ways but all that doesn't matter when they are the friends of your heart. My advice is to take somwe time before you decide. Sorry to hear your night out didn't go as planned _I"m up if you need to talk.


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  2. MSNOW

    I'd let some time pass before you make a decision. Friends are valuable and they make mistakes. I've learned that friends change and often grow in other ways but all that doesn't matter when they are the friends of your heart. My advice is to take somwe time before you decide. Sorry to hear your night out didn't go as planned _I"m up if you need to talk.


    MSNOW

  3. MSNOW

    I'd let some time pass before you make a decision. Friends are valuable and they make mistakes. I've learned that friends change and often grow in other ways but all that doesn't matter when they are the friends of your heart. My advice is to take somwe time before you decide. Sorry to hear your night out didn't go as planned _I"m up if you need to talk.


    MSNOW

  4. belladeath

    *hugs* It is worth saving, don't let one night ruin a friendship. Had he been drinking at the bar? Alcohol and depression doesn't mix well and I can understand his wanting to leave so bad, but like you said that was no excuse. Give him time to cool off and take the initiative and tell him how it hurt and that you still want to be friends. Or just tell him the second, lol.


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  5. Rac87el

    Sweets im sorry u had that happen to u. You have a few options on how to deal with this. You can just leave him alone until he comes to talk to u or you can wait a couple of days and give him a call and flat out ask him "whats going on?" and "Why did u leave me?". Tell him how u feel. And then when he answers and how he answers, u will know whether the friendship is worth saving. I hope he apologizes and realizes that it wasnt right to just up and leave u stranded. i understand he is upset over a breakup and mentally unstable, but he is still an adult and supposed to be your friend. Love ya sweets and hope u feel better. I'm here if u ever need to talk. Big hugs! Rachel


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  6. KelleyP

    Based on my experiences with an unmedicated bipolar, my ex-fiance... you have to be the adult in the relationship. I learned the hard way that simple coping mechanisms that you and I possess they do not.. When my ex would get stressed about anything we would have a manic to deal with. It was horrible for him to leave you stranded like he did. Hopefully he will come around and eventually apologize if he can. In the future I would always have a second game plan in place so that this does not happen again. My ex was trapped in his own little world a lot. Still is for the most part. I still get calls when he is freaking out, usually while he is driving in busy towns. Its not always easy to talk him down and calm him enough so he can function. My ex uses his phone a lot when he gets stressed.. he pretends he is calling the president, the secretary of state, and he even pretends to call the military to launch an attack.. that is just how he copes when he is under stress.... He also thinks he is the foremost authority on everything. The hardest part is that he can manipulate a situation to suit himself and he is very good at it. Other behaviors to watch are stalking, etc.. they often can not let friendships go. I would be very concerned for the health and welfare of the girl he broke up with.


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  7. Tobey008

    Bi-Polar people can be difficult when everything is going well for them but when faced with a trauma like an emotional breakup. Their behavior is going to be bizarre to a mentally healthy person. I'm sorry he left you there but you managed to get through it. perhaps you could organize an intervention with some of his other friends and maybe some family to convince him he needs to go back to his meds.


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  8. weinere46

    Dear Nicole,
    A real friend would not do this to you ever. Think of this person as an acquaintance not a friend and leave it at that. people think either friend or enemy but they forget that acquaintances are not quite friends nor enemies. He sounds like this type. Eric


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  9. mirzy

    Bi-polar people act this way when traumatized.
    It is as if they have an attitude change when they get off ther medications.


    mirzy

  10. DeniseLeigh

    Let a little time pass. In the world of Bipolar - especially without meds - AND when something bad has happened to them - it takes them some time to reflect on things that have happened and the, when they get back on their meds, it takes even more time. I have no meds right now and I'm mad at the whole world - I'm a complete loon. But I know when I finally get back on my meds and I find a more stable place in my life I'll be ok - and then I'll have to apologize to all the people I've hurt - which I've been doing a lot of lately.


    DeniseLeigh

How do I help my friend? Mood
Sunday, August 16, 2009 | A Sad story
I want some help I don't know how to help my friend and it breaks my heart.She is refusing to take her meds and has canceled her mental health case.She has severe bipolar and has delusions. I am trying to convince her but nothing I say works. She is like family to me and her mother is heartbroken.She has 5 children and it hurts them also. How do I help her?  I don't know what to say anymore that will make a difference.
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  1. Tobey008

    Keep telling her you love her, and find out why she wants to stop the meds . Maybe the side effects are too debilitating. or bothersome for her to cope, Many people with mental illness find the side effects worse than the disease. Help her talk to her doctor about her complaints.


    Tobey008

  2. Mary80

    Is she a danger to herself or her kids? Because in that case there are some legal options...I know she's your friend...but sometimes people don't know what's best for them.


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  3. weinere46

    Dear Nicolea,
    There is not much you can do for her Sweetie. Just keep telling her that you love her and be there for her. In my experience she has to bottom out before she becomes convinced that she needs her meds. Stay Strong. Eric


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  4. Rac87el

    If your friend is a danger to herself and to others, her mom can get a lawyer and can have her committed to a psychiatric hospital to be evaluated and treated. This is the right option only if she is dangerous to herself and others. Hopefully she will hit her low without doing something stupid and realize that she does need the meds to function normally. I do know a lil bit of how she might feel because with severe depression I have went off my meds a few times and each time I felt worse and worse and realized that I needed the meds, so I try to remembeer to take them everyday and to force myself to take them even when I dont feel like it because believe me I know what its like to be sick of taking pills everyday. Try to see it from her view and then approach her and talk to her. Maybe if she sees that someone else understands her and knows whats shes going thru, maybe she will listen and go back on the meds. Other than that sweets, all u can do is pray for her.


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  5. RockstarsMom

    If she is no danger to herself or her children, then just assure her you love her and continue to tell her how much her meds help.


    RockstarsMom


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