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Massachusetts Lawmaker's Pledge to 'Rip Apart' Child Rape Victims at Trial Draws Fury

Thursday, June 26, 2008

 

A Massachusetts politician and defense attorney has touched off a firestorm with his shocking public vow to torment and "rip apart" child rape victims who take the witness stand if the state legislature passed stiff mandatory sentences for child sex offenders.

Rep. James Fagan, a Democrat, made the comments during debate last month on the state House floor.

"I'm gonna rip them apart," Fagan said of young victims during his testimony on the bill. "I'm going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined, that when they’re 8 years old, they throw up; when they’re 12 years old, they won’t sleep; when they’re 19 years old, they’ll have nightmares and they’ll never have a relationship with anybody.”

Click here to watch Fagan's shocking statements on the Massachusetts House floor.

Fagan said as a defense attorney it would be his duty to do that in order to keep his clients free from a "mandatory sentence of those draconian proportions."

Fagan did not respond to repeated requests for comment from FOXNews.com.

His remarks drew the ire of local activists as well as colleagues.

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“I thought his comments were over the top and unnecessary,” Massachusetts House Minority Leader Bradley Jones told FOXNews.com on Wednesday.

“I appreciate that he’s a defense attorney, and felt he had a point to make, but I think it was unnecessary,” said Jones, who supported an original version of the bill. “It was excessive.”

The father of the Florida girl for whom Jessica's Law is named also blasted Fagan after hearing the comments.

Mark Lunsford, whose 9-year-old daughter was abducted and buried alive in a trash bag by a sex offender in 2005, told the Boston Herald on Tuesday that Fagan should take the rights of victimized children seriously.

“Why doesn’t he figure out a way to defend that child and put these kind of people away instead of trying to figure ways for defense attorneys to get around Jessica’s Law?” Lunsford told the paper. “These are very serious crimes that nobody wants to take serious. What about the rights of these children?”

The bill that he opposed eventually passed the House and set mandatory minimum sentences of between 10 and 15 years for a set of different offenses against children ranging from assault to sexual crimes. A version is still pending in the state Senate.

From a legal perspective, law professor Phyllis Goldfarb said Fagan was probably expressing a basic courtroom truth – that it is a defense attorney’s job to test the prosecution’s case, especially when mandatory penalties are on the line.

“It is fundamentally true … if the proof is coming almost exclusively through a child witness you may have to find a way to test it. That’s the attorney-client obligation there,” Goldfarb told FOXNews.com.

Goldfarb, who used to direct the Criminal Justice Clinic at Boston College Law School, said Fagan used some over-the-top language, but that he probably didn't relish the idea of cross-examining a child. She said it's just his job.

“You do have to challenge a witness,” she said. “Some people find ways of doing that that are loyal to their role as defense attorneys -- testing the proof (in ways) that aren’t abusive to a witness, but it's very hard.

“And I think being put in that hard position is what he seems to be railing against here, using language that’s probably a little bit hyperbolic.”

Lunsford will be in Massachusetts on Wednesday to push the state Senate to include mandatory prison time in the state's final version of Jessica's Law, according to the Herald.

Reader Information: State Rep. James Fagan is a Democrat representing the Third Bristol District, which includes the city of Taunton. Fagan, a 1973 graduate of Suffolk Law School, has been representing the district since 1993, and serves as chair of the House ethics committee. He can be reached by e-mailing or calling:

State House: 617-722-2040

District office: 508-824-7000

E-mail: Rep.JamesFagan@hou.state.ma.us

Click here for more from the Boston Herald.

IT IS BECAUSE OF CREEPS LIKE THIS,THAT IT WON'T PASS IN 8 STATES.I WILL TRY TO PUT THE MAP ON SO ALL CAN CHECK THE STATE YOU LIVE IN.I FEEL IDIOTS LIKE HIM,PLAYED A PART IN THE LITTLE GIRL IN VERMONT BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED AND MURDERED BY HER UNCLE,AND HER STEPFATHER THAT HAD A SEX RING THAT INCLUDED CHILDREN,EVIDENTLY IT IS O.K. IN THESE STATES.THE ONLY WAY IT WILL CHANGE IS IF THE PEOPLE WHO ELECT THESE ANIMALS,.STAND UP,AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.THE JUDGES ARE ALSO TO BLAME PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYONE, BECAUSE THEY LET THEM GO.LIKE JUDGE CASHMAN FOR EXAMPLE.IF THEY WANT TO PROTECT THEM SO DAM BAD,WHY DON'T THEY TAKE THE PEDAPHILES IN THEIR OWN HOMES.THEY CAN ALL GO TO HELL TOGETHER.IT SHOULD BE A FEDERAL LAW,SO THESE IRRESPONSIBLE SO CALLED LAW MAKERS,DON'T HAVE A CHOICE(DID  JESSICA HAVE A CHOICE ?) NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE DID NOT,AND SO MANY SINCE HER DEATH.THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED AND RAPED,AND HAD NO CHOICE EITHER.HOW MANY MORE HAVE TO SUFFER? HOW MANY MORE HAVE TO DIE? HOW MANY MORE WILL LOSE THEIR CHILDHOODS?HOW MANY MORE WILL SUFFER FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES? HOW MANY MORE ENTIRE FAMILIES,HAVE TO PAY FOR THE CHOICES THAT THESE ANIMALS MAKE? I WILL BE POSTING JESSICA'S LAW,EVEN THOUGH I WILL GET A FEW MESSAGES THAT IT IS TOO HARSH,THAT THEY WERE ABUSED AND THAT'S WHY THEY DID IT,WHAT SORRY EXCUSES FOR HUMAN BEINGS THEY ARE,AND THOSE WHO DEFEND THEM IN ANY WAY,SHAPE OR FORM. NO EXCUSES ,0 TOLERANCE,ACTUALLY I THINK IT IS TOO EASY MYSELF,I THINK THEY SHOULD SUFFER SLOWLY,AND THEN DIE.DO I SOUND ANGRY?((((((((((((( YOU BETCHA )))))))))))))))))).PLEASE HELP THE CHILDREN WHO CANNOT HELP THEMSELVES,SOMEBODY HAS TO DO IT,DON'T YOU THINK??????????????????????????????    THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ THIS,AND ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SEMPERPEPPER,(((((((((( YOU BETCHA )))))))))))))))))) I WILL NOT GIVE UP,IT HAS BEEN YEARS NOW, AND IF YOU EVEN THINK OF DEFENDING THEM,WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN,IF YOU CAN TAKE IT.

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  1. hazellbaby

    I am almost sompletely on your side, but I grew up being molested I'm 16 now and my boyfriend is 20...... is he a pedifile too? I feel that anyone who violates another person in a way not wanted should soend forever and a day in jail and in hell, but this law also causes people like me to loose the people they love because someone else thinks that a 16 year old isnt mature enough to decide who they let in their pants and its wrond if their a day over 18.....
    i love you
    houw do you feel about what I just said?
    always and forever
    Hazell


    hazellbaby

  2. SEMPERSUGAR

    No I don't consider it the same.I was 16 and started going with my husband,he was 21,and had been married,and just gotten a divorce.We were engaged for 2 years,and got married 3 days after I turned 18.At 16 you have the right to leave home now,then you certainly make your'e choices.I am talking about when it is forced on you.I was old enough to make my own choices,I had already grown up,because of being molested,raped etc.I was not a child,my childhood had been gone for a long time.I hope this helps,don't worry,it's not the same as I said as far as I am concerned.Just my opinion!!!!!!!!!with respect,sincerely,Love ya lot's,connie we have been together 45 yrs.now,so I guess it worked,lol!!!!!!!!!!


    SEMPERSUGAR

  3. bluesun

    i swear i read this exact thing several months ago. talk about dejavu (sp?)... anyway... i hate pedophiles and i hope hell has enough space for them.


    bluesun

  4. MystkWintr

    I agree with the above..but HELL? Too easy on them...they should be lowered farther down than that..let them scoop up the dregs hell leaves in its wake....


    MystkWintr

  5. HatMan117

    In court the only ones who make money off of other peoples misery is lawyers. N.A.M.B.L.A. has hired scores of lawyers who make it legal for them to practice pedophilia here and overseas. Money is talking here, and always will. There are some lawyers out there who are good and decent people but most lawyers will take a case just because they are paid to do that. And then they will say every one deserves equal justice from the law. What about the victims???


    HatMan117

  6. SEMPERSUGAR

    THERE ARE SOME GOOD ONES,BUT ANYONE THAT DEFENDS A PEDAPHILE TO ME,IS STILL EVIL.IT IS ABOUT MONEY FOR SURE,AND FOR THE JUDGES,BALIFS,GUARDS,JANITORS,ETC. THE LIST IS ENDLESS,$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN CHILDEN,THAT LOSE THEIR CHILDHOODS.THE JUDGES LET THEM GO,ONE MAN RAPED HIS SON FOR 7 YRS. AND GOT PROBATION,AND THERE ARE 8 STATES ALTOGETHER THAT WILL NOT CONSIDER MAKING THE PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIMES.THEY ARE COWARDS,AND UNFORTUNATLY THE CHILDREN SUFFER.FREEDOM THAT WAS FOUGHT FOR,GOES TOO FAR,AND I AM SURE THAT ALL THAT HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTRY WOULD AGREE.EVERBODY GAINS BUT THE VICTIM,THEY LOSE FOREVER,AND PEOPLE LIKE THIS LAWYER DO NOT GIVE A DAM.HE DOES NOT HAVE CHILDREN,GOOD THING THERE WERE NOT ANY. THANKS FOR THE COMMENT,WE ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND FIGHT THE SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT CARE,AS LONG AS THE $$$$$$$$$$$ KEEPS COMING IN.THERE IS NO EXCUSE !!!!!!! O TOLERANCE FOR ALL PEDAPHILES.I THINK THEY SHOULD SUFFER,SLOWLY,AND I WOULD VOLUNTEER TO DO THE JOB MYSELF,AND ENJOY EVERY MINUTE OF IT,THE VICTIMS DON'T HAVE A CHOICE AND THET SHOULDN'T EITHER !!!!!!!!!! SEMPERPEPPER WHEN IT COMES TO THIS SUBJECT,UBETCHA


    SEMPERSUGAR

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