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Zach Wahls Speech: Moving the Nation in Support for Gay Marriage
Posted in Gay Parenting by Lee Trask on Dec 05, 2011
Please watch this clip of Zach Wahls, giving a speech to the Iowa Senate, opposing a House Joint Resolution that would ban gay marriage.

The last line of this young man’s speech is absolutely wrong. “{T}he sexual orientation of my parents has had ZERO effect on the content of my character.”

This is a nineteen year old, who is speaking before the Iowa legislature, without a teleprompter, cue cards or notes written on the palm of his hand (cough, Palin). He is poised, well spoken: a gifted orator. He gives a few statistics about himself: Engineering student, scored in the 99th percentile on his ACT, owns and runs his own small business, was an Eagle Scout. He is giving an impassioned speech about family, and about the Iowa law in relation to same sex marriage. I was riveted to this clip; thinking about what a fine young man this is standing there, unafraid, putting himself, his sister, and the two women who raised him, in the public eye for scrutiny.

Here is where the last line of his speech strikes me: I believe the content of his character has everything to do with the sexual orientation of his parents. His parents are two brave women who; knowing their own families might not embrace their unborn child, went ahead and started a same sex family together, in the Bible Belt. These are two women who; I’m sure, faced bigotry, resistance, and ignorance, but taught their son not only to suffer it, but also stand up against it. These women, so sure of who they are at their core, raised a boy with the same confidence in himself, and with a belief that if you speak out, you can change the world.

Same sex marriage is changing how we see families; and like the Civil Rights Movement, will only be truly successful when the last generation that clings to their bigotry has perished. But, to the many same sex couples here on DailyStrength; who are undergoing IVF, surrogacy, or adoption the good news is that there is a generation coming up that has been raised by same sex parents. This generation, will be the first that finds no difference in the way they were raised, and the way I was raised (by a mom and dad.) My sons, who are 6 and 9, think it is perfectly normal to have two moms or two dads, and you know what? They are absolutely right.

- Lee

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Well I can at least say your "argument" against legal same-sex marriage makes as much sense as any I've ever heard
By Spiky  Dec 11, 2011
You're so taboo, can't you guess it yourself?
By darinlunderman  Dec 10, 2011
Internalized homophobia and self-loathing are only some possible guesses. Another is disapproval of legal marriage rights for anyone.

You still have yet to explain why, as a person who professes to have same-sex attractions, would oppose gay marriage rights. As you appear to be unable or unwilling to disclose your rationale, I guess no one will ever know.
By Spiky  Dec 09, 2011
Wow, "homophobia" huh? and here I thought you were really on top of this discussion, guess I was wrong.
By darinlunderman  Dec 09, 2011
The reasons behind your beliefs are ''so obvious'' they don't require explanation! How convenient for you! I shouldn't be surprised since it's consistent with the fact that you haven't communicated a single meaningful word to this conversation.

I'd be interested in finding out who else thinks it's obvious that a self-identified ''pansexual'' member of both the "Coming out" and "Bisexuality" support groups on this site would be opposed to same-sex marriage. The only thing obvious to me about it is a conflict of interest. Such a person must struggle with internalized homophobia.
By Spiky  Dec 09, 2011
"figure out why life is they it is."

Is the way it is, sorry this keyboard is unresponsive sometimes.
By darinlunderman  Dec 09, 2011
I could fight with you on about everything you just said but then again I also can just walk away and not have to explain something obvious(not to you anyways).

Just try to keep an open mind by not having a open mind, if that confuses you then it means you'll finally figure out why life is they it is. que sera sera
By darinlunderman  Dec 09, 2011
By darinlunderman  Dec 09, 2011
"Whatever, gay marriage is just wrong anyways" sounds like a childish remark to me, and it takes no thought or effort to point that out. Does calling me a troll and telling me I'm not smart sound especially mature?

Challenging someone to defend their opinion doesn't amount to guilting them into believing they are a bad person. It's your choice to address these queries or not, but there is no reason to defensively lash out at me.

I am mainly just curious as to how a person can reconcile their anti-gay marriage position with the same-sex aspects of their own sexuality.
By Spiky  Dec 08, 2011
Gay marriage is still wrong, perhaps I'm not the child here if you put so much thought and effort into trying to prove to me that I'm wrong and that I have to be guilted into believing I'm a bad person.

I have my opinion and you have yours, calling me a child over it doesn't make you smart nor does trolling up this comment board.

Have a nice day.
By darinlunderman  Dec 08, 2011
Gay marriage is still wrong, perhaps I'm not the child here if you put so much thought and effort into trying to prove to me that I'm wrong and that I have to be guilted into believing I'm a bad person.

I have my opinion and you have yours, calling me a child over it doesn't make you smart nor does trolling up this comment board.

Have a nice day.
By darinlunderman  Dec 08, 2011
It wasn't until 1967 that interracial marriages became legal in all states. Gay marriage is becoming legal in more and more states as it should be.
I thought government and religion are suppose to be separate.

People quote the bible to back up their beliefs but they forget the bible also says Judge not, that ye be not judged. Matthew 7:1 and of course there is St. Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven

I have a cousin who is gay and she has been with the same woman for over 40 years, why shouldn't she have the same legal rights as me.
By dc6289  Dec 07, 2011
The entire gay marriage debate is about legality. The laws reflect a consensus of what the citizens believe is right or wrong. Nothing to do with any divine definition of right or wrong. It shouldn't even be mentioned.

The accusation that I take scripture out of context might have some significance if I actually believed in it, which I don't. Thanks though for trying to invite me to fear your supreme being's judgment. Is that what you get out of your belief in God? A sense of superiority?
By Spiky  Dec 07, 2011
What I meant was, listen carefully, just because the state and/or Federal Govt. pass a law that says same sex marriage is right, does not make it right, in light of what the Bible says. Also, the cloven hoof pig article you mentioned was the laws given to the Jewish nation. Same with those written in Deut. If you knew anything about Leviticus and Deuteronomy, you would know that these books were books of laws to the Jewish nation which included, sin offerings, peace offerings, trespass offerings,etc.for the atonement of sins. Thank you for also "feeling sorry for me because I follow an antiquated reference manual to do my thinking". Let's see who is right when judgment day comes and, it is coming.

You also conveniently take scripture out of context, to suit your answers.
By OLDBIKER  Dec 06, 2011
I noticed OLDBIKER also said the following of same-sex marriage: "If people choose to live this way, that is their right and their choice but, there are those who do not agree with it and we also have the right to state our views as well." This is an unnecessary and redundant statement. Legalization of same-sex marriage does NOT in fact deprive you of your right to state your views. Read the First Amendment.
By Spiky  Dec 06, 2011
To all those who object to gay marriage based on your Christian beliefs: I feel sorry for people who are so unable to tell the difference between right and wrong that they need an antiquated reference manual to do their thinking for them. Incidentally, if you do believe that the Bible is the word of God, and that God is infallible, you must also believe this:

Leviticus 11:7-8
"And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he [is] unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they [are] unclean to you."
(also mentioned in Deuteronomy 14:8)

Does your observation of the word of God include abstaining from eating pork? Of course not, because your beliefs, like those of so many religious adherents, are hypocritical; you conveniently believe the portion of the Bible that is consistent with your preferences.
By Spiky  Dec 06, 2011
I hate to say it OLDBIKER but you are incorrect. The Federal and state govt. can indeed make gay marriage "right", as marriage is recognized purely as a legal matter by our government. Maybe you'd prefer to live in a country where the Church is the primary legal authority, as exemplified by Sharia law perhaps?
By Spiky  Dec 06, 2011
I am sorry but, I disagree with your stand on same sex marriage. If God says it is wrong, it is wrong and not you, not the Federal Govt. or any state law, will ever make it right.

If people choose to live this way, that is their right and their choice but, there are those who do not agree with it and we also have the right to state our views as well.
By OLDBIKER  Dec 06, 2011
I know several lesbian or gay couples that are raising children together. For the most part, the kids are turning out fine. They understand that not everybody is OK with the notion of having two mommies or two daddies, but also that the person who has that attitude is the one who owns the problem.
For the partner who has not legally adopted the bio mom's children, from a legal standpoint, I would strongly advise you to do so. That way, you have authority in the lives of the children in case your partner becomes unexpectedly incapacitated.
By madbookworm  Dec 06, 2011
As a minister who has married countless couples, I have no problem with same gender marriage. I have seen several and they seem as stable, caring, loving as any other marriage. I see this controversy as a re-play of interracial marriage. People got over that, and I pray they will get over this - and soon.
By OldManBear  Dec 06, 2011

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