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What’s the deal with Armour Thyroid?
Posted in Hyperparathyroi... by Dr. Sharon Orrange on Jan 25, 2010
A great question came from a member who was taking Synthroid for hypothyroidism: “Should I be concerned I’m still having symptoms while on Synthroid? Should I switch to Armour thyroid? Why are some doctors hesitant to prescribe Armour Thyroid?

Armour Thyroid, or desiccated thyroid, is a variable mixture of T3 and T4 made from the thyroids of pigs. Many patients like the idea of a more “natural” thyroid replacement over using synthetic thyroid hormone like Synthroid (Levothyroxine) but is there any reason to switch to Armour?

One of the problems with Armour, which is why some Physicians are leery of prescribing it, is that the amount of T4 and T3, and the bioavailability of Armour thyroid can vary across batches. In general, 1 grain of Armour is equivalent to a total of about 74 mcg T4 but this can vary quite a bit.

Another problem with T3/T4 combinations like Armour is that patients treated with T3-containing preparations have wide fluctuations in serum T3 concentrations throughout the day due to its rapid gastrointestinal absorption and its relatively short half-life in the circulation…which is about 1 day.

Does taking combination T3/T4 (Armour) result in more symptom relief than synthetic thyroid hormone? No question about it. I have patients who report a difference but the studies don’t support this. In most large studies, combination T3/T4 therapy (Armour) does not appear to be superior to T4 monotherapy (Synthroid which is Levothyroxine) for the management of hypothyroid symptoms. A small study done on thyroidectomized patients did show that some derived benefit from Armour but in patients with Autoimmune Thyroiditis (Hashimotos Thyroiditis) studies have not shown any benefit.

The reason you can’t find Armour thyroid in most pharmacies now is that only three drug companies make it in the U.S. and all have slowed production. The reason for this is believed to be the Swine Flu scare and the fear of using pig thyroid for Armour.

Dr. Orrange

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Doctor Orrange,

I find it very difficult that you mention getting T3 and T4 and not mention that you also get a small amount of T1 and T2. This is what is missing from Synthrod. I sure have struggled with it I have never experienced being tired more so board.
What I have done is a regiment that consist of Iodine, Magnisium & potassium,Fish Oil and salts seems to help me ulitmately it will be my longivity that proves what works and what doesn't.I have lots of Armour the old brand in the fridge haven't used it for months.As far as Swine flu that to me is kind of far fetched (scare tactic kind of like radiation used to be) like I have heard so many physicians say that it wasn't adjusted enough. Walk a mile in my shoes.Oh, I was also convinced by Mary Shomon and their are things that totally blow me away. One other thing is their is a link to women who have had hysterectomies and blood disease that is so interesting I hope you will reseach and come back with your findings. Mrs. D Thyroid Cancer Survivor!
By Debbie247  May 22, 2010
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Thank you Dr Orrange for posting the other side of the story about Armour. You aren't trying to sell a book or promote an ideology, just sharing your knowledge. When I was first Dx as hypo the internet sites like the one run by Mary Shomon had me convinced that I might as well change doctors if they weren't willing to give me armour right off the bat. I now have seen that Armour does not work better for most people and this is a proven fact that the vast majority of these quacks fail to mention. All the risks associated with Armour have been routinely and categorically ignored by these people who are extremely emotional and biased aboout Armour. Thanks for representing the other side of the story.
By letmerest  Mar 29, 2010
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This amazes me that a doctor on here would not check out the truth before writing an article on here. I have just picked up my prescription for Armour Thyroid and Forest Pharm is the only place that makes Armour. I was told this my the pharmacist also. He is a DOCTOR and orders this. Also, he just told me that they are releasing more Armour starting Monday, 2-8 but very limited supplies due to the high demand for it. Like is proven, it has been around for over 75 yrs and has worked great. As a doctor I pose a question for you.....IF A DRUG WORKS WHY DOES A DOCTOR WANT TO CHANGE TO A SYNTHETIC ONE WHICH IS NOT NATURAL TO THE BODY. It is funny that you say because it is made from pigs that it could be unsafe---pigs have suppied heart valves for quite a few years now.
By Barbell  Feb 07, 2010
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According to the CDC, swine flu has nothing to do with pigs and I am amazed that doctors &/or pharmacists would not check that out before jumping on that bandwagon.
By MyTrueColors  Jan 27, 2010
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Additionally, there are MANY things that patients take that can interfere with their absorption of ALL thyroid medications. CALCIUM supplements must be taken 4 hours PRIOR TO, AND 4 hours AFTER taking any thyroid hormone pill. IBUPROFEN should be taken the same way as calcium because IBUPROFEN INTERFERES with thyroid pill absorption. And THE POTENCY of ALL thyroid pills is EASILY compromised by both cold temperatures and heat. Thyroid pills should be carefully guarded in the heat of summer and the cold of winter, especially when traveling. The storage recommendation temperatures for thyroid pills should be strictly adhered to. Too often, doctors are not looking at the whole picture of what a patient is doing.
By nightbyrd  Jan 27, 2010
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Furthermore, your statement about "wide fluctuations in serum T3 concentrations throughout the day due to its rapid gastrointestinal absorption and its relatively short half-life in the circulation…which is about 1 day," is HIGHLY ALARMIST!! The COMMON MISTAKE that doctors make when prescribing T3 is prescribing a dose that is TOO HIGH and/or TAKEN ALL AT ONCE. The gold standard for SYNTHETIC (therefore stable and consistent) T4/T3 therapy is two separate doses of 5 mcg of Cytomel, one dose upon waking taken with the daily T4 pill, the second 5 mcg Cytomel pill taken about 8 to 9 hours later, all doses on an empty stomach, and then the T4 dose is ADJUSTED AROUND this same stable dose of Cytomel.
By nightbyrd  Jan 27, 2010
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Dr. Orange, your article is INCOMPLETE because you do not mention that "combination T3/T4 therapy" can be successfully and SAFELY prescribed with the PROPER combination of Cytomel (synthetic T3) and Synthroid (or any of the other forms of synthetic T4). MOST doctors do NOT know how to safely administer this form of T3/T4 therapy. However, my world-renowned Thyroid Specialist, whose practice is limited to thyroid patients alone, has been SUCCESSFULLY treating many of his patients with a combination of Cytomel and synthetic T4.
By nightbyrd  Jan 27, 2010
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Dr. Orange, your article is INCOMPLETE because you do not mention that "combination T3/T4 therapy" can be SUCCESSFULLY and SAFELY prescribed with the PROPER combination of Cytomel (synthetic T3) and Synthroid (or any of the other forms of synthetic T4). MOST doctors do NOT know how to safely administer this form of T3/T4 therapy. However, my world-renowned Thyroid Specialist, whose practice is limited to thyroid patients alone, has been SUCCESSFULLY treating many of his patients with a combination of Cytomel and synthetic T4.
By nightbyrd  Jan 27, 2010
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For those of you not experiencing shortage you are lucky at most drug companies in the U.S. have stopped making armour. Also, there are many rumors about why this has occurred including swine, no money (though remember making levothyroxine is not money making either because its generic) and the makers of amour not wanting to comply with FDA regulations...among others.... I recommend you all check out savenaturalthyroid.com if you are interested in saving armour. I continue to prescribe Armour for some of my patients but no question we have faced great shortage.
Dr O.
By DrOrrange  Jan 26, 2010
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Armour Thyroid shrunk my tumors after I went off the Synthroid need no cough drops 24/7. There is no shortage of the raw product and Swine Flu would never survive the heat process to make the powder. (American Laboratories, Omaha NE) Forest Pharm takes great effort to be sure each batch is equal, call them for info. Armour has been around for over 75 years. Is not an inferior product just cheaper for the consumer and better.
By Barbell  Jan 26, 2010
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This is not true. Has this doctor even called the company that processes the powder that goes into making Armour Thyroid? The Swine Flu virus would never make it through the heat process that is used to process this into powder. Also, if you call Forest Pharmaceuticals you will also find out how they process the powder once they receive it so the batches are evenly dispersed among all doses. These is TONS of evidence that Armour works wonders for someone with Hashimotos disease. I for one had tumors on my thyroid and used cough drops 24/7 was on Levothyroxine and then Synthroid, never helped at all. T4 only could not convert in my body due to the autoimmune problem. It is ridiculous the lies that are going on about Armour. It is hard to get because there is huge demand for it. It has been around for over 75 yrs. has always worked. Pharma companies don't like it because it is not a BIG money maker. Really a shame that drs. are so uninformed that they spread these stories.
By Barbell  Jan 26, 2010
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I switched from Armour to a combo of Synthroid and Cytomel because of the unavailability of Armour. I have not noticed a difference one way or another.
By notsoaveragemom  Jan 26, 2010
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I have just been investigating this whole phenomena. I am on 100 mg of Synthroid daily, and my T4 tests show normal, but I still have a lot of lingering symptoms, like tiredness and cold, and excessive hunger at night. I like the idea of taking both at the same time. Is there any evidence for overdosing? I don't eat meat though, so the idea of injesting pig every day doesn't appeal to me. Isn't T4 just for storage? And T3 the more active? I wish more research would be done in this area.
By Angela53510  Jan 26, 2010
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The changes in my body between Synthroid and Armour are night and day. Within 3 days I was certain I had made a good decision to switch. I get a compounded porcine thyroid that is equivalent to Armour. There are no reported shortages in the raw material according to the apothecary where I get mine.
By Taradactyl  Jan 26, 2010
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My Doctor took me off Armour Thyroid and prescribed a compound mixture of Thyroid Medication in a Capsule. She did not want me to get off it completely because it was working except one time. The Pharmacy mixed it in their lab by hand. I did not know they could do this. It seemed to be helping me. Even my fingernails started to grow more than ever in my life. Now, however, they are starting to break off. The Pharmacy told me they could mix it with a calcium compound. Medicare does not pay for either one. I am going to ask my Dr. if I can have the calcium filler instead with my Thyroid prescription. It comes in capsules.
By canarie  Jan 26, 2010
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I've also read reports that say many people with fibromyalgia have difficulty processing synthroid and do better on Armour.

What are other options for those of us who have good numbers w/synthroid, but aren't seeing any symptom relief?
By MyTrueColors  Jan 25, 2010
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Yea I have heard this as well... I have also heard people who take and do well with the synthetic form of T3 (Cytomel) in addition to their T4 therapy and swear by it and claim it also works better than T4 therapy alone. But I have noticed doctors don't typically like to prescribe T3. I find this interesting as my TSH isn't what is really off, but rather my T3 numbers and then they will increase my T4 therapy which corrects my T3 and overall TSH to more acceptable levels. I wonder if T3 (not Armour, but rather Cytomel) supplementation would just be easier?
By amalzahir  Jan 20, 2010
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