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Cyndi Sarnoff-Ross is a licensed psychotherapist with almost twenty years of clinical experience in the fields of clinical psychology and organizational management. She has worked extensively with a wide variety of…
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Friendships Between Gay Men and Straight Women
Posted in Healthy Relatio... by Cyndi Sarnoff-Ross on Sep 18, 2012
Television shows such as “Will & Grace” brought the dynamic between gay men and straight women into public light. That particular show was a comedy so we sometimes saw the cartoon version of these types of relationships but the more realistic, intimate side was portrayed as well.

Women who have close relationships with gay men will tell you that it isn’t about the stereotypical idea of fashion and hairstyles as a vehicle for bonding. Most gay men I have spoken to tend to agree that these relationships offer an opportunity to be close to someone of the opposite sex, who is not a relative, without the added sexual tension that often crops up.

These relationships are fraught with all of the same issues present in any platonic coupling. There are disagreements and falling-outs. There are moments of support and camaraderie but there doesn’t seem to be the same level of competition that can be present between same sex friends. In this way, women tell me, there exists a comfort level, and even a trust, that they often don’t experience with their girlfriends.

As the media continues to offer more examples of homosexual relationships, America’s attitudes have been shifting. In a 1996 Gallup Poll, 27% of Americans approved of same sex marriage. Compare this to a recent Gallup Poll which found more than 50% were in favor of legalizing gay marriage. Many of the stereotypes are thankfully changing. As old notions begin to change, gay male and straight female relationships are more frequently represented in the media and more accepted in society. There does seem to be a unique bond between these men and women and one that has a slightly different feel than that of other relationships.

Several of my gay clients have shared with me over the years that, while they were growing up and before they came out, they were more likely to have close friendships with girls. This is especially true during their adolescent years. Not only are young girls often more accepting of males who may have more feminine traits, or appear different, but they are also not as likely as their male counterparts to be threatened or fearful of interacting with them. The often-confusing years of puberty and adolescence can leave those struggling with their sexual orientation feeling alienated. Ironically, while girls can be much tougher on each other when it comes to being judgmental or hurtful, they tend to offer a more accepting, non-critical environment to their gay male friends.

For young girls who are self-conscious and anxious about their interactions with boys, forming a friendship with a male that doesn’t include the romantic element can help to build their self-esteem. Both sides offer elements of a friendship that may not necessarily be found in a same sex platonic union.

Do you have a cherished relationship like this and if so, has it been different than other friendships in your life?

- Cyndi

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my best friend is gay. I was 9 and he was 7 when we met and we have had a great time growing up together (we are now both in college). Yea our friendship is different than other friendships but its also in the length of time we've been friends. I'm not sure if it would be different had we met in our adult lives.
By rac146  Oct 23, 2012
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I feel like, while these relationships are "often" there is still a side of me that is screaming to try out being more of a guy - and the sad truth is, my insecurities within the gay community itself has me limited, wondering who "the real man" is. Indeed, gay men and straight women have their Will and Grace bond but in the end, I feel as though same sex coupling, if assumed and followed by stereotype (as is often expressed out and about) - can destroy ones belief in self. I guess I am just saying, at some point, I feel like the gay boy wants to become a gay man - and not need his female counterpart to go along side with.
By LoveMeBetter  Oct 13, 2012
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Why doesn't the same dynamic happen with gay women and straight men?
By johnnycake  Sep 21, 2012
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Duh, Women like to establish friendships with others with less than masculine personalities. Those homosexual men who accept breeding women as friends are unique in their tolerance of heterosexuality. Most homosexual men carry such a chip on their shoulder that most of their communication has undertones.
The bigger problem with hetero women establishing friendships with homosexual men is it is based on their preference of relationships with a more feminine personality type. Many women feminize their male children with Justin Bieber feminized hair styles and mannerisms. This training emasculates too many young males leaving society wanting for more masculine men.
By Mark in Idaho  Sep 20, 2012
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Some years ago I had two fabulous gay friends George and Scottie in Kings Cross, I worked in the Norfolk Arms pub ans was very lonely they looked after me , bought me fruit to stay healthy and cooked the odd meal for me, I used to tease them about hoe gorgeous Scottie was and what a waste of a man but they took it in good sport and we became really close. This was many years ago and I have,nt seen them since but I have very fond memeories of them both, hope you are still out there guys and keeping the faith, God bless you both xxx
By granmapat  Sep 20, 2012
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MINE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I HAVE BEEN TOLD 4 TIMES IN THE PAST 18 YEARS, THAT MY HUSBAND IS GAY. HE WAS OVER 50 WHEN WE MARRIED. AFTER THE THIRD TIME, I STARTED TO CHECK IT OUT. THIS SOUNDS VERY FACTUAL TO ME. WE ARE NOW IN OUR SENIOR YEARS, BUT HE ADAMANTLY DENIES EVER HAVING HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH A MAN EVEN THOUGH I HAVE 4 NAMES OF PEOPLE - TO WHOM I HAVE SPOKEN MYSELF - THAT SAY OTHERWISE. AT THIS POINT IN OUR LIVES, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME WHATSOEVER. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE CAN'T BE HONEST ABOUT THIS. SUPPOSEDLY, HE KNEW THIS WHEN HE MARRIED ME. I HAVE NO INTENTION OF GOING ANYWHERE AND HAVE ASSURED HIM I WOULD KEEP HIS SECRET, SO WHY IS HE STILL DENYING THIS? I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SO MANY PEOPLE FROM TOTALLY DIFFERENT AREAS OF HIS LIFE, WOULD BE LYING.
By SIMPLYSCRIBE  Sep 19, 2012
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I'm not sure what inspired one reader's comment that (all?) gay men hate straight women. The truth is that noone can speak for "everyone" in a group. They can only speak from their own experience and mine is that for whatever reason I always have gay people in my life (quite likely because they feel comfortable to be "out" with me).

I do have a gay friend (guy) but I wouldn't venture to base his way in our friendship to extend to all gay guys with straight women.
By Kindmirrow  Sep 19, 2012
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When I was a young single woman in the 1970's I tended to have gay friends if my friend was male at all. I wanted male friendship but it seemed like the concept of friendship with women among straight men was often lacking until at age 33 I met my husband who was and is my best friend.

I have had great friendships with some women as well, but any friendship I have has usually been instigated by the other person because I suppose I am not very out-going.

So, yes, I appreciated the friendship of the few gay men I knew, but that doesn't mean I understand why same sex marriage could possibly be good for society as a whole in the same way that heterosexual marriages are.

As a side note, my favorite cousin is a lesbian.
By Fern RL  Sep 19, 2012
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I used to have a close gay friend. We're still friends but not as close as we used to be & yes it's definitely a different kind of friendship than I have with my girl friends. I miss being his hag lol.
By justKate  Sep 19, 2012
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My best friend of 19 years is male and yes he is a gay man, he is like a brother to me, Friendships between myself and my best friend has been a problem int he past when I've dated guys because they get jealous of my best friend but he will and always has been be my first choice over any guy because we have known each other since we were children, We are very close and I would not change him for the world :)
By eternallybroken  Sep 18, 2012
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