"I have been in pain mgmt for 6 years with numerous spinal problems. I am on fentanyl and oxycodone daily. My primary wants me to have a long overdue colonoscopy, I am 60. My question is I do not want an amnesic drug and pain meds, I want to be totally out. Can they do that for me?"
The GI doctors could have an anesthesiologist put you under general anesthesia for the procedure, but the risks and poor outcomes (up to and including death) associated with that generally outweigh any benefits. I find it interesting that you do not want a medication like Versed or Propofol, given that you are accustomed to taking medication for pain.
- Dr. Kimberly Dennis
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They gave me the fentanyl and versed first, in a sufficient amount because it relaxed me a lot. Then right before the procedure, they also gave me Propofol. I was completely OUT the whole time, yet by the time they wheeled me out of the OR I was wide awake. I think Propofol is a MIRACLE DRUG... it doesn't carry the same risks as general anesthesia, yet a person can be out for a procedure. I had three procedures on my back and the Propofol was great each time. I was a little bit drowsy for a few hours afterward but felt fine otherwise, whereas with general anesthesia, there are so many possible side effects. Talk to your doctor about Propofol before your colonoscopy. Best of luck!
They gave me the fentanyl and versed first, in a sufficient amount because it relaxed me a lot. Then right before the procedure, they also gave me Propofol. I was completely OUT the whole time, yet by the time they wheeled me out of the OR I was wide awake. I think Propofol is a MIRACLE DRUG... it doesn't carry the same risks as general anesthesia, yet a person can be out for a procedure. I had three procedures on my back and the Propofol was great each time. I was a little bit drowsy for a few hours afterward but felt fine otherwise, whereas with general anesthesia, there are so many possible side effects. Talk to your doctor about Propofol before your colonoscopy. You'll be glad you did! Best of luck!
I think the questioner might have a similar concern- that being given fentanyl and versed (in doses that they usually give to non-tolerant patients) will not have her "out" for the procedure.
However, I have ALSO had a positive experience with this issue, so I hope I can offer some advice that might help. When having some outpatient surgical procedures done for my back, I was told I'd be receiving sedation and was TERRIFIED because I didn't think it would work. The doctor doing the procedure WAS my pain doc, so he was well aware of my tolerance and anxiety issues.
As someone who takes high doses of pain medications for chronic pain due to spinal injury as well, MY concern when undergoing any kind of procedure that involves "sedation" is always whether or not it will actually WORK on me given my tolerance. I also have an anxiety disorder, so I worry because I know my anxiety level is through the roof before any sort of procedure, which means they're starting with a very high level of anxiety to get under control before any "sedation" can occur. I have had TWO terrible experiences at the oral surgeon, for the removal of wisdom teeth, when I was given "sedation" (fentanyl and versed) that did absolutely NOTHING for me- I was still shaking from anxiety even after the meds. I felt EVERYTHING that went on, I was screaming in pain, and I still have nightmares about it to this day. I refuse to go to ANY dentist after that experience.
I took the alternative of a virtual colonoscopy, which is not invasive. You stay awake for the whole procedure. That was not a big deal at all. There's a small tube inserted to add gas to the colon to make it easier to see. So, the closest thing to pain was simple gas pains, with gas in the colon during the procedure that I wasn't able to release until tube came out.
You still need to go through the same prep, but you avoid the meds, there's no real pain involved, and you can drive yourself home. The only downside is that if they find any polyps, they can't remove them. Then you have to go through the real colonoscopy to get that done, including re-doing the prep.
doctor did put me to sleep. They do it through the IV sedation.
It wasn't bad at all. I was asleep for about 30 minutes and
that was it. The doctor found two polyps in my colon and took
them out at that time. Thank God, they were benign! No cancer!
I'm so glad I had mine done when I did. The polyps can become
precancerous, if they become bigger. That's what the doctor
told me. So, I'm very glad I had mine done. However, I need
to go back next year for another one. He wants me to have
one every three years, instead of every five years.
Good luck!
joanieg2006
I had "light" sedation with the second one. It hurt just as much but seemed to be over a lot quicker.
I was pretty much knocked out for the third one, which was much better, but I have a very dim memory of struggling to get off the exam table and the doctor and nurse both throwing their bodies across me and yelling at me to be still, so I imagine that I felt some degree of pain and was trying to get away from it without having any cognitive understanding of what was going on.
In any event, as others have said, the prep is the nastiest part.
In general with this test, I'd say go to a doctor with a good reputation and then talk to them about fears and maybe even what might happen in a worst case scenario. Looking for and finding a doctor who is good, and that listens and whom you feel comfortable with goes a long ways. Side note spiritual counseling can be helpful in dealing with various fear or pain situations.
Lastly, the people whom I've talked to about it, have said that the worst thing was drinking the stuff.
The problem I had was that my colon is pretty twisted and there were areas higher up that they just could not reach with the colonoscopy. They scheduled me for a barium enema a few weeks later to try and get xrays that way. Now THAT was so painful that they had to stop the procedure. I couldn't hold that stuff in and the pain was unbearable. I was in tears and told them to stop. I never did get it finished.
I would much rather have had another colonscopy instead of that.
I hope yours goes well!
I myself am scared to have a colonoscopy after all the horror stories I have heard.
Just because someone is already on pain medication doesn't mean they are ok with taking more. I would be afraid it wouldn't work because of my current pain issues or the meds might make me sick.
Obviously the patient doesn't want to go through this awake and I don't blame them. If they have to give you such strong pain relievers and amnesia causing meds it must be pretty bad. What information can you give about the procedure that might make people feel better about it?