Women who Love too Much Community Group
WHEN BEING IN LOVE, MEANS BEING IN PAIN... This group is to help women through the journey of realizing they can love themselves. To help realize that they are capable of having a happy, healthy, whole relationship and break the cycle of abuse and heartache from loving emotionally unavailable men.
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Good afternoon everyone,
I am a French woman (47 years old) I live near Paris and would like to thank you all for your authenticity and sincere sharing. I have read your forum for more than five years, then decided to join and only now to share my story with you: I have lived for 13 years with an emotionally unavailable man, and it took me ten long years to actually recognize and fully understand the reality of our relationship. I have a child from a previous ( unhappy) relationship, and thought I could have a happy joyful family life with my new partner. It was all in my head, all in my dreams and I believed it so much that it seemed almost real. I thought he loved me, cared for me, shared my life when I was actually deceiving and fooling myself.... He used me as an excuse not to be truly involved, he avoided the responsability of being a father and "performed" this role with my child, he lived in the house that I bought alone ( I thought it was OUR home), he didn't share the bills, and was basically like a wagon full of stones that I had to pull along years after years...
but one day .....TADA!!
In 2008 I was blessed with breast cancer! It may sound weird but this really changed and saved my life! I was so stubborn and blind that I needed this massive kick in the butt! I was slowly dying and drowning in guilt and exhaustion when I WAS FORCED TO STOP thanks to my worst friend or best enemy: cancer.
There in my bed, standing still for the first time I was made to WATCH around me and I SAW the reality of what I was doing with my life. That same year I had met a married man at work, called Pierre. We fell in love. And the mix of cancer + this love was like the French revolution in my life!! But this time it would not be MY head sous la guillotine! I still can't believe the energy that carried me! I left my boyfriend, because these two signals were too big. Pierre left his wife! This was in September 2008, he came to live with me, I was sick, desperate and utterly confused and he chose to live with ME! We got married last year . :))))
Believe me I went through all the feelings that you mention here:
For over Three years I was constantly thinking about my ex CONS-TAN-TLY. I was doing everything, walking, talking, working....while obsessing about him. Half of my brain was constanly dedicated to thinking about my ex; EVERYTHING was a trigger, every book I read, everything I did or heared or said! I tought I was mad not to be able to enjoy my new love peacefully, I was haunted, every single minute of my day! My friends didn't understand my problem and thought I was incoherent and foolish. You can't possibly imagine how this forum helped me. :) THANK YOU! I finally got fellow suffering sisters! My love for Pierre was not the question, the point was I was leaving my old self, when you start destroying something it falls down, and down and down.... You can't save anything of your old dead skin, and I grieved this loss, I grieve my old self, and I was SOOOO scared of change, paralysed by fear...... All my old tricks and habits had to be left behind to progress, I had to let go my thoughts, believes, dreams, hopes, addictive painful process...
I started therapy in 2009 and had a weekly meeting for two years, I have never worked so eagerly on anything in my entire life! I have read hundreds of books, planted a garden to celebrate my new love, written all the thoughts that I couldn't handle on a skylantern that I sent it in the sky, I have been through every possible emotion: fear, anger, frustration, despair now I am finally recovering. I do not hurt anymore when I see my ex ( he doesn't speak to me or even says hello when we accidentally see each other in the street) he gives me a desperate look which used to be a massive trigger but now I do not feel concerned anymore, it is HIS problem!
HUGE step! MIRACLE even!
I have gained SO MUCH from this experience!
I am stronger, because I experienced my limits and accepted my weakness, I am less angry, it is nobody else's falt or responsability who I decide to be with, or what I accept to live. Now I can be intimate with Pierre and trust him, It never happened to me, being able to be fully myself and trusting I would be accepted and loved the way I am.
He has supported me, lovingly for five years now and I can't believe the new person I am becoming thanks to the nurturing of this relationship, I feel that I am born at last now, more alive, more real!
I have cut all the toxic relationships that I had in my life, all these people that were feeding on my inability to say no, using me like an emotional tank from which to feed ad nauseum! I live with someone who doesn't need me but chose me for who I am.
We speak and communicate so profoundly.
I have investigated in my life, faced my fears for the first time and I forgive and love myself for the first time!!
I gave up the hope that the past could be any different and can even thank my ex who has helped me, he was a good teacher! Now I Know Real Loving takes real courage! I want you all to know that this is possible! Have no fear, trust life and its infinite strength! I want to tell you also that you are all in my thoughts, every morning I dedicate my new strength and humility to you, I walk you in my thoughts through Paris and its Lovely springtime ( well it's kind of rainy and cold at the moment but nevermind...) Je vous embrasse toutes et vous souhaite le meilleur du fond du coeur. love and love and love fromPetit Pois.
I am a French woman (47 years old) I live near Paris and would like to thank you all for your authenticity and sincere sharing. I have read your forum for more than five years, then decided to join and only now to share my story with you: I have lived for 13 years with an emotionally unavailable man, and it took me ten long years to actually recognize and fully understand the reality of our relationship. I have a child from a previous ( unhappy) relationship, and thought I could have a happy joyful family life with my new partner. It was all in my head, all in my dreams and I believed it so much that it seemed almost real. I thought he loved me, cared for me, shared my life when I was actually deceiving and fooling myself.... He used me as an excuse not to be truly involved, he avoided the responsability of being a father and "performed" this role with my child, he lived in the house that I bought alone ( I thought it was OUR home), he didn't share the bills, and was basically like a wagon full of stones that I had to pull along years after years...
but one day .....TADA!!
In 2008 I was blessed with breast cancer! It may sound weird but this really changed and saved my life! I was so stubborn and blind that I needed this massive kick in the butt! I was slowly dying and drowning in guilt and exhaustion when I WAS FORCED TO STOP thanks to my worst friend or best enemy: cancer.
There in my bed, standing still for the first time I was made to WATCH around me and I SAW the reality of what I was doing with my life. That same year I had met a married man at work, called Pierre. We fell in love. And the mix of cancer + this love was like the French revolution in my life!! But this time it would not be MY head sous la guillotine! I still can't believe the energy that carried me! I left my boyfriend, because these two signals were too big. Pierre left his wife! This was in September 2008, he came to live with me, I was sick, desperate and utterly confused and he chose to live with ME! We got married last year . :))))
Believe me I went through all the feelings that you mention here:
For over Three years I was constantly thinking about my ex CONS-TAN-TLY. I was doing everything, walking, talking, working....while obsessing about him. Half of my brain was constanly dedicated to thinking about my ex; EVERYTHING was a trigger, every book I read, everything I did or heared or said! I tought I was mad not to be able to enjoy my new love peacefully, I was haunted, every single minute of my day! My friends didn't understand my problem and thought I was incoherent and foolish. You can't possibly imagine how this forum helped me. :) THANK YOU! I finally got fellow suffering sisters! My love for Pierre was not the question, the point was I was leaving my old self, when you start destroying something it falls down, and down and down.... You can't save anything of your old dead skin, and I grieved this loss, I grieve my old self, and I was SOOOO scared of change, paralysed by fear...... All my old tricks and habits had to be left behind to progress, I had to let go my thoughts, believes, dreams, hopes, addictive painful process...
I started therapy in 2009 and had a weekly meeting for two years, I have never worked so eagerly on anything in my entire life! I have read hundreds of books, planted a garden to celebrate my new love, written all the thoughts that I couldn't handle on a skylantern that I sent it in the sky, I have been through every possible emotion: fear, anger, frustration, despair now I am finally recovering. I do not hurt anymore when I see my ex ( he doesn't speak to me or even says hello when we accidentally see each other in the street) he gives me a desperate look which used to be a massive trigger but now I do not feel concerned anymore, it is HIS problem!
HUGE step! MIRACLE even!
I have gained SO MUCH from this experience!
I am stronger, because I experienced my limits and accepted my weakness, I am less angry, it is nobody else's falt or responsability who I decide to be with, or what I accept to live. Now I can be intimate with Pierre and trust him, It never happened to me, being able to be fully myself and trusting I would be accepted and loved the way I am.
He has supported me, lovingly for five years now and I can't believe the new person I am becoming thanks to the nurturing of this relationship, I feel that I am born at last now, more alive, more real!
I have cut all the toxic relationships that I had in my life, all these people that were feeding on my inability to say no, using me like an emotional tank from which to feed ad nauseum! I live with someone who doesn't need me but chose me for who I am.
We speak and communicate so profoundly.
I have investigated in my life, faced my fears for the first time and I forgive and love myself for the first time!!
I gave up the hope that the past could be any different and can even thank my ex who has helped me, he was a good teacher! Now I Know Real Loving takes real courage! I want you all to know that this is possible! Have no fear, trust life and its infinite strength! I want to tell you also that you are all in my thoughts, every morning I dedicate my new strength and humility to you, I walk you in my thoughts through Paris and its Lovely springtime ( well it's kind of rainy and cold at the moment but nevermind...) Je vous embrasse toutes et vous souhaite le meilleur du fond du coeur. love and love and love fromPetit Pois.
Xxxxxxxxx
We are so powerful together even if there are thousands of kilometers between us... we should not forget that we are all linked through this very solid bond which is sincere desire to love, we sometimes choose the longest path, but it is not a problem as long as we get there, and we will ALL get there! I do not deserve more love than any woman on this forum or any woman in the same struggle, I started to trust and let myself be helped by all your hopes and vitality, even depressed women sharing their lonely fights were so helpful, I curled up in their desperation, thanks to their authentic voice I have started to get in touch with my own wounded self... we must be proud ! We ARE the power; the infinite power of love! XXXXXXxxxx to you too ;)
it's midnight in Paris when it is still daytime for you! Not a big deal we are in the same flow!
I wish you all the cheer joy and serenity that we feel when we stop torturing ourselves with unsolving questions. :) I wish us all happiness and fulfilment, not feeling Happy all the time but being able to feel everything, and respond appropriately / effectively. I love the idea that most of you are awake when I sleep. Tomorrow it will be my turn to watch and keep you in my thoughts while you will be sleeping ;)
Sweet dreams ( 00:32 here ) Petit pois
I love that arrogant little queen of a kitty-cat..... So truly happy for you and and the man who risked everything to love only you.................
Tell him that we love you both, and pray for a long and lovely life together.
I am ALMOST done with the flame that consumed me for my obsessive creepy love.................it took going back, after DECADES, to church, and humbling myself, and asking for help and prayers from strangers..........
...and I have been FREED from the obsessive ties that bound us............
I can finally go to sleep, and wake up, without him being the last and first thought in my mind.
My emotions have been cooled and soothed..................
.......and I am no longer secretly hoping in my heart that he will suddenly open his spiritual and emotional eyes and see that I was the best thing, and the most loving woman, that ever happened into his life........
petipois, ...you give us all hope..........love the man you are with.....enjoy your life........give thanks.....
I want to be that cat! so relaxed and grounded :) You are right Pierre risked everything, he was scared to death about losing the love of his two children, they were 14 (a girl) and 16 (a boy) when he decided to follow me. Things went on slowly, I was guilty about breaking his marriage but I was reassured by his family's reaction. The first time I went to his brother's they told me they had been waiting for me for years!
Things are so much more simple than we fear, there was this quiet little music in my guts playing a tune of serenity, I was scared and confident at the same time. Things went smoothly with his daughter but were a bit difficult with his son at first, he was very angry. Now he studies at the same university as my son in the east of France and they managed to get flats in the same building on the same floor, they are INSEPARABLE, how crazy is that? I believed things could only get better and they DID! The happiness of our children is a HUGE weight off my chest, it is also a major sign along the way to show that we are not on the wrong track. Pierre's ex is satisfied with her new life too :)
I am happy to learn that the pain of your obsessive ties is getting lighter. I understand how you felt, I thought something was broken inside me forever, that I would never be fully alive and free again, but if we are never as strong as we wish, we are not as weak as we fear either. It took me some time to enjoy my new situation, to feel I was not stealing anything from anyone, to feel I deserved what I was given...
I clicked on your profile and checked "Scranton, PA" on a map! look where I am: Palaiseau, France. Far but close, isn't that Cooooool? :) Have a lovely day.
Thank you for your nice welcome, it made me so joyful this morning, thinking such a place exists! There isn't anything like that in France, people are very suspicious about emotionnal work and psychology, when I casually say that I went to a shrink people look at me in a funny way! It is still a massive taboo! There are AA programmes here but very very few codependent anonymous. The old René Descartes has still a big impact on our froggies' minds :D
Big hugs to all you strong inspirational ladies xxxxxxx
Thank you for your warm words!
I think one of my major issues is that I NEVER GIVE UP!
I am like a bloody stupid stubborn Pit-bull which won't let go once it got a juicy leg! I simply WON'T let go!
It proved very useful in my life : I didn't interrupt my process, I was like a guided missile on my target, I looked at my vision and followed it no matter what!
Some people are DEpressed, I have always been SUPERpressed! I was raised in a family were " tout est question de volonté " everything is a matter of will. Some emotions were totally forbidden, you can't be tired, confused, doubting, sad, depressed, dependent etc...
It proved sometimes helpful but it is basically a big LIE! Nobody is never tired or depressed..... not even me! Because of that ability to cope and carry a lot, I have coped and carried A LOT! A lot too much! but I simply had no inner voltmeter to measure my emotional exhaustion. I was not equipped with the proper devise that tell "normal" people when to stop! Stopping would have been given up, I would have been an unreliable girl Boooooooooooooh!
But fortunately there is a special cure for people like me: life serves us the same thick and bitter soup over and over again in a bigger and bigger plate! A sad disappointing relationship then another and another, a broken heart then another, and another until " I was emotionally and almost spiritually finished ! " like YOU!
Thank you N- borderline- unavailable-guys what would I be without you? a stupid brainless dog with massive jaws?
Certainly not a human being, certainly not a WOMAN!
I would still be pulling some iron locomotive wondering why I did not go very fast! I was always DOing not BEing!
I was helping, understanding, nursing, blablablahing but I was not BEING.
Pierre walked by and my jaw dropped...... The juicy bone fell. I had a soup indigestion!
I sat on my butt in utter disbelief: what was I using my life for? what was I using my energy on? What the hell was I doing? When we are ripe we fall from the tree. I was ripe, I was ready, I had enough...
I hope I have learned my lesson. No more soup please! Sick and tired of it! :/
2Butterfly, you write that you "desperately try and remind yourself of the woman you used to be before you met him, vibrant, beautiful, adventurous, passionate etc ..." But you are still there, you were just hiding a little, fortunately you were hiding not to get completely messed up! You are still there! Paris is still there!
You didn't lose anything! Everything is there, brand new in its little box you can try, have another go with the "Pierre" that you deserve "you will definitely meet our own 'Pierre' in time." A très bientôt. Take care. Petit Pois.
I don't translate! I is pure brain juice! I am so happy to be able to share with you. Your dented wings will give you a very original flying style, I bet . Don't change a thing ;)