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GOP's "Kill Granny" Campaign to Doom Healthcare
Posted on 08/01/09, 07:28 pm
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If you don't think the right wing of the GOP has done enough damage to the democratic process, or thought the birther campaign was sick, how about the conservative talk show hosts speaking out against health care reform by saying it has options in it designed to coax the elderly to end their life through euthanisia. What do you think of this?
If you don't think the right wing of the GOP has done enough damage to the democratic process, or thought the birther campaign was sick, how about the conservative talk show hosts speaking out against health care reform by saying it has options in it designed to coax the elderly to end their life through euthanisia. What do you think of this?
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Reply #1 08/02/09 9:45am
currently medicare offers no payment for assisted suicide consultation or coverage. the proposed health care package is supposed to have language regarding this controversial issue. assisted suicide has slowly been making inroads into health care in america. this has come about because of medical technology being able to extend life but not always the quality of life. several people when faced with a terminal illness have chosen or wanted to choose to end their life rather than suffer a lingering death. two benefits; one, elimination of massive health care costs; two, unnecessary anguish on family members. those who are against a health care reform use the absence of language or inclusion of options, such as this, to play on the fears of the general public. euthanasia is not part of the package, but humane consideration for those who are faced with such decisions is. i personally, if living on SS and faced with brain cancer, would be thankful for a medicare inclusion that would pay for consultation regarding assisted suicide. and i probably would take advantage of it. i would rather be coherent and say my goodbyes than linger like my sister-in-law did. she suffered greatly for the last six months of her life, unable to control her bodily functions. unable to see out of her bloated eyelids. unable to communicate with her family. unable to live life as a human. had she been given the opportunity to end her life with the assistance of medicare, she would have. family would have been relieved of watching her suffer. -
Reply #2 08/02/09 7:14pm
I live in the only state that has a law allowing assisted suicide. You have to be terminally ill with six months or less to live, and it has to be approved by two physicians I believe, and you have to express your wishes to end your life this way once verbally, and once in writing. Then, you have to take the pills yourself - noone can administer them to you. (They would be brought to your bedside I imagine, maybe while you were sleeping, I don't know). The health care bill would pay for consultation every five years on end of life issues. I agree that assisted suicide can be a humane way to go, if you are terminal anyway and suffering greatly from intractable pain and/or complete disability from your illness. The cost savings should be considered as well. Heroic efforts when someone is terminal and suffering just doesn't make sense to me. -
Reply #3 08/02/09 7:37pm
far cry from youthenasia though.....speaking of asia....Moe tried to get some dancers from asia, but turned out they were male acrobats from south of philly...what a dissappointment! -
Reply #4 08/03/09 12:38am
RPTFLMAO! I love you, Doofy!! -
Reply #5 08/03/09 12:40am
Laughing so hard I mistyped the acronym....! -
Reply #6 08/29/09 6:14pm
When my husband died the first thing that happened was that his lungs collapsed and I could see the incredible fear in his eyes. He was searching my eyes to help him somehow and that was one excruciating experience because, of course, there was nothing that I could do.
I think if he had known that death was certain - he would have chosen euthanasia. i wouldn't let the doctors tell him his certain diagnosis until he asked if he was going to die - and that may have been a major mistake on my part. If I had terminal lung cancer - I would want to know so that I could leave this world gently and not in fear.
Including paid consultation in this regard not only to the patient, but the family also would be invaluable in my opinion. -
Reply #7 08/30/09 1:06am
I am so sorry Linda Jean. I had no idea. Yes, euthanasia is the humane way to depart from this earth sometimes. Too bad we have so many conditions for it here in Oregon. -
Reply #8 09/02/09 4:56pm
Thanks Shevan - I do have to say I also watched him moving on to some place else that I could not see or hear - but it was happening. That part of the experience was amazing. -
Reply #9 09/03/09 4:00pm
Oh wow - you saw him transition to the other side! That IS amazing! -
Reply #10 09/05/09 10:47pm
Yes I did - I didn't expect it - I had not seriously read anything about that - I had heard things or seen things on film but never really took it seriously. And there I was - watching that incredible light surrounding him - it was so bright that I had to avert my eyes somewhat. He had a look of incredible awe on his face (he was a very powerful trial lawyer and not in awe of much of anything before that). He was hearing something that I could not hear and seeing something I could not see. He finally brushed me away because he was so intent on what was happening - and then he died.
That light was so intense that after he was wheeled down to an emergency room I had to go back to see what the light was - and it was gone.
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