hmyers512
I really don't think your doing anything wrong. I am also trying to spread the word, on craigslist and any message boards I visit. After
my first treatment I'm a real believer, but I know I need another soon.
I resent anyone saying its a placebo effect, as along with you I know better. I now know that cranial osteopathy doesn't even come close to NCR- well after two years of cranial 2 X a month I should know, it may help some but nothing like the NCR.
Either the people like their pain or taking meds or they dont' want to pay out of pocket for a treatment, or I also do feel some are scared to have it done like I was at first. Also the doctors are so far and few its hard for most people to travel to them.
All we can do is keep spreading the word and hopefully they will be more activity here.
I for one am so happy to have found this message board, as it was the final convincing factor that led me to get it done as I had been thinking of doing it for awhile, only wish, like you, I had started it sooner.
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Why I Advocate... what am I doing wrong?
Posted on 08/18/09, 10:04 am
I think my story ought to turn heads.l I think people should go: Wow, when they hear it and use it to increase their own understanding of what's possible. I might sound arrogant, and I am, but only in the way of someone who has discovered something that few others will believe. Yet, i know my story is anecdotal mostly, i do have medical records that support what actually happened - but really no one is making the connection. It's just as easy for someone to say: "You imagined you were in pain, then you imagined it was fixed" and I'd have no way to prove it. But, I know.
Is it my writing style? or is it that it's so farfetched to believe that a balloon, inflated strategically into a sinus cavity, can correct a host of ingrained, seemingly intractable conditions of the whole body? Yep, sounds farfetched to me. But it's true. If you really consider the structural application to the body's framework and symmetry and factor in how nerves and other tissues move about and can be compromised, then look at how this procedure is applied and why - it begins to make sense.
Feeling is believing. My life was over. My pain had me on my back and house-bound after a decade of being continuously worn down further. THREE DAYS OF 1/2 PER DAY NCR TREATMENTS - the crushing pain that was the debilitating symptom, that had been intractable for 12 years and 6 weeks - exactly, was lifted, simply gone. I can't tell you what having your life shut down for over a decade can do to your family, finances, career, interests, hobbies, passions and sense of self. You can't imagine it unless you've experienced it. The last 5 years were the worst in terms of simply collapsing more and more into nothingness. I fared pretty good in the fight to live against the pain for a long time until i just got worn out. Then i let everything go. If I had NCR 5 years earlier, which was around for 10 years at least before i found it, then so much of what i actually lost would never have been lost. If I hadn't found NCR - gone the other way, i don't think i'd be here right now. My pain syndrome was constant, never ending, excruciating torture. How do I communicate that?!
It wasn't until the pain was gone that i came to recognize mtbi symptoms had been part and parcel all along. I've learned a lot by the experience of this rapid, amazing recovery from something that was supposedly incurable.NCR helped the cognitive symptoms too.
I advocate to save as many people from suffering those 5 years that cross the threshold where things are permanently destroyed, never to be recovered. I know that NCR can help a lot of people on DS. I accept that most of them won't believe it. Still, it has helped at least one person so far - and I'll keep trying. I want NCR to be recognized by the VA because my injury can't be too different from the percussion of a blast, and those things don't always to show right away. When they do they're mystery pains - like mine. They park you on morphine and forget you. NCR proved mine had a physical origin and that there is this one, little recognized procedure that can correct it.
I hope some others feel the need to help me spread this word.
Is it my writing style? or is it that it's so farfetched to believe that a balloon, inflated strategically into a sinus cavity, can correct a host of ingrained, seemingly intractable conditions of the whole body? Yep, sounds farfetched to me. But it's true. If you really consider the structural application to the body's framework and symmetry and factor in how nerves and other tissues move about and can be compromised, then look at how this procedure is applied and why - it begins to make sense.
Feeling is believing. My life was over. My pain had me on my back and house-bound after a decade of being continuously worn down further. THREE DAYS OF 1/2 PER DAY NCR TREATMENTS - the crushing pain that was the debilitating symptom, that had been intractable for 12 years and 6 weeks - exactly, was lifted, simply gone. I can't tell you what having your life shut down for over a decade can do to your family, finances, career, interests, hobbies, passions and sense of self. You can't imagine it unless you've experienced it. The last 5 years were the worst in terms of simply collapsing more and more into nothingness. I fared pretty good in the fight to live against the pain for a long time until i just got worn out. Then i let everything go. If I had NCR 5 years earlier, which was around for 10 years at least before i found it, then so much of what i actually lost would never have been lost. If I hadn't found NCR - gone the other way, i don't think i'd be here right now. My pain syndrome was constant, never ending, excruciating torture. How do I communicate that?!
It wasn't until the pain was gone that i came to recognize mtbi symptoms had been part and parcel all along. I've learned a lot by the experience of this rapid, amazing recovery from something that was supposedly incurable.NCR helped the cognitive symptoms too.
I advocate to save as many people from suffering those 5 years that cross the threshold where things are permanently destroyed, never to be recovered. I know that NCR can help a lot of people on DS. I accept that most of them won't believe it. Still, it has helped at least one person so far - and I'll keep trying. I want NCR to be recognized by the VA because my injury can't be too different from the percussion of a blast, and those things don't always to show right away. When they do they're mystery pains - like mine. They park you on morphine and forget you. NCR proved mine had a physical origin and that there is this one, little recognized procedure that can correct it.
I hope some others feel the need to help me spread this word.
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Reply #1 08/18/09 6:16pm
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Reply #2 09/19/09 11:32pm
hmyers512
I agree with luvtosew. You aren't doing anything wrong. I read a post of yours on the Alternative Medicine group telling about your experience with NCR and it piqued my interest. So I researched it and thought it might help me. I'm the person that wrote a post on this site a few months ago asking the group and Dr. Lieurance if NCR would be helpful in eliminating my leg pain. I had a lot of structural problems and felt that my leg pain was coming from unresolved structural issues. Dr. Lieurance responded by saying that he wouldn't bank on NCR solving my leg pain, but he suggested that I check out prolotherapy. Please pass on to him that I took his suggestion and did extensive research on prolotherapy and have had an evaluation by an osteopath who specializes in this procedure. After palpitating the tissue around my SI joint and lumbar spine, she felt that I indeed have weak/lax ligaments in this area and that these are most likely the source of my leg and back pain. I'm scheduled for my first round of injections at the end of this month. Thus, even though I'm not doing NCR, your post led me to discover prolotherapy, which I HOPE will resolve my pain. Thank you for continuing to advocate for NCR. You never know how the information will help someone. Kat -
Reply #3 09/21/09 2:28pm
Hey, Harvey I just joined your group. luvtosew, it is rarely ever, 'not wanting to pay out of pocket' but rather not having money to pay. Chronic pain sufferers, most of us are terribly desperate for relief and we are poor so like me, most are on medicaid and we are sent to conventional docs with no idea what to do for us but prescribe meds and usually not near enough nor the right kind of meds for severe pain. They refer us to PT and maybe a pain management clinic. Many of us desire holistic, alternative treatments but have no way at all to pay for them.
Harvey, I think you should post this word for word on the chronic pain discussion board. That is where I found you and I think this post may draw more interest from others. Thanks for trying to lead us to where we can get real help for our suffering. : )
Sherry -
Reply #4 09/21/09 5:22pm
Sherry- I know money is tight, I'm on disability for MS, and its hard to pay for these treatments. I have been to pt so much and osteo, but it just never has any lasting effects, but at least it is covered and its too bad these alternative treatments aren't as well.
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Reply #5 10/14/09 2:11pm
It is the money for me, I would love to experience no pain, instead I am stuck ina minimum wage job, trying to maintain a home, Right now, I am homeless and it sucks. I have a Bachelor's degree and can not even land a job as the pain and the TBI and the new found brain tumor are all factors slowing me down to where I am trying to go. Life will resume for me one day OR I will die - fact - In the mean time I rely on the good Lord above to maintian sanity for me as I so often give up and just want to end the pain and the confusion of life. TRUST me I am OK and not suicidal THIS week, but there are days. I just encourage everyone to hang in there and take one minute at a time and enjoy it as if it were your last.
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Reply #6 10/14/09 2:14pm
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Reply #7 10/14/09 2:16pm
I wish i could afford to help folks that can't afford this treatment, but I can't either. LOL. Just when i get all better the economy decides to tank. Go Figure. I will overcome and someday have enough extra scrath to pay for someone elses treatment. -
Reply #8 11/12/09 2:34pm
You are doing nothing wrong! This is probably the best way, at the moment to spread the good news. I was skepitcal and scarred at first. But, after alot of thought, and having to deal with the constant daily pain. I found a way to get this procedure accomplished for me. Now, I have not had it done yet, it is set to be done at the beginning of Dec .2009. But, I have great hopes, that this will bring me relief and end my daily suffering. Thank you for being an advocate. I would not have know anything about it, if it were not for this site. I will keep everyone posted on my upcoming procedure. And, well wish to all! -
Reply #9 11/12/09 5:04pm
MSN- are you seeing Dr. Sarno in S.C. Can't wait to her about her, we almost got her to come to Mi. but didn't have enough people.
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