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LDN "Trouble Shooting Guide"

Posted on 05/28/08, 04:22 pm

Subject: Re: [lowdosenaltrexone] Trouble shooting guide


Hi everyone,

I think it is important to remind everyone that we do notice overall about 15% of people taking LDN for MS do not seem to get any help from it. We have also noticed that many people experience worsening of symptoms, re-visiting old symptoms or even having new problems for a short period of time and then they usually get better and go on to experience the benefits of LDN. It is scary when you take a medicine hoping to get better and you are feeling worse. But since this happens enough that we are used to seeing it and seeing people get through it with good results, we try and encourage those taking LDN to ride through it. Understandably not everyone can tolerate worsening symptoms and they must keep asking themselves if this med is making them worse or if they are part of that 15% that just won't get better on it.

Other options that might help while going through a difficult period of time with increasing symptoms include:

1. Checking on who is providing your LDN to make sure they are formulating it correctly and with a filler that works best for you. I usually recommend going through one of the pharmacies listed on the LDN web site that have been providing LDN successfully for an extended period of time.

2. We also have seen some that have not been doing better with LDN test for Lymes and find out that they never actually had MS. We recommend testing with a Lymes literate doctor. Apparently some of the general tests for Lymes may not catch or diagnose it accurately.

3. We have also seen a number of cases where people were not feeling better with LDN and then they get checked for Candida (overgrowth of yeast in your body - many times stemming from use of antibiotics). If they find they have a high concentration of Candida and they go through the process of getting it under control LDN tends to work much better for them.

4. Keeping stress in check: Time and time again we find that exasperations come up in times of extreme stress. This even happens to those that are doing well with LDN use. We cannot emphasize enough to find ways to reduce stress in your life.

5. Infections: There have been a number of people that have experienced a return of symptoms while they have large scale infections. One doctor described to his patient that it may be that the immune system is concentrating on healing the infection and cannot also keep symptoms at bay during that same time period.

6. For the reduction in side effects some people have starting LDN at a very low dosage and built their way up to 3 or 4.5. Those that do this typically start at 1.5mg, and gradually go up to 3 or 4.5 until they feel at their best. It is important to note however that this may delay seeing more immediate benefits in symptoms or lack of progression that one hopes to achieve in taking LDN, and that Dr. Bihari still recommends starting at 4.5mg (or 3.0mg for those with significant MS spasms) and working ones way through any side effects.

Over the past couple of years we have been saving chats regarding problems associated with the many illnesses and/or problems that are helped by or associated with LDN use. Many times we try and forward on the solutions found by other chatters from this site. If you have questions or problems please write regarding the problems to the chat site and we will send you what we can find that has been saved. Some of these problems and solutions found include: stiffness, sleep, fatigue, etc. We also have been forwarding messages regarding other supplements that have helped others with certain ailments like pain, depression, eye problems etc.

For those that have been on this chat site and have had success with this wonderful drug we stay on only to help others get there too. Heath is the goal, and helping others reach that goal is a wonderful gift to everyone concerned. That is what this site is all about.

My best
Aletha


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  • Reply #1 05/28/08  6:02pm
    HERRING'S LAW OF CURE

    Hahnemann, Samuel: Organon of Medicine. Philadelphia. Pa., Boeriche
    and Tafel, 1901

    In the treating of chronic diseases, the homeopaths have discovered
    that the elimination of these conditions proceeds in a certain
    specific order and rules have been laid down outlining this healing
    procedure. These rules are known as Herring's Laws in honor of
    Constantine Herring (1800-1880), who is considered the father of
    American homeopathy. Herring's three laws may be expressed simply as
    follows:

    1. Symptoms of a chronic disease disappear in a definite order when
    the patient is properly treated in accordance with homeopathic
    recommendations. The symptoms usually disappear in the reverse order
    of their appearance-the most recent symptom disappears first; then an
    earlier symptom re manifests only to abate when the proper remedy is
    given. This process continues until all the unresolved disease
    conditions are eliminated, even though some may go back to early
    childhood. This procedure is called the reverse progression of
    symptoms. This procedure of symptom regression isn't restricted to
    homeopathy alone, but is to be expected when most natural methods of
    therapy are used to overcome chronic ailments

    2. Herring's second law states that the symptoms tend to move from
    the more vital organs to the less vital organs and from the interior
    of the body toward the periphery or skin. This law functions because
    of the body's attempt to preserve itself. If a disease that produces
    morbid matter can't be eliminated, the body tries to deposit the
    residues of this condition in as harmless an area as possible. The
    skin is one of the safest, but the body also frequently uses the
    various connective tissues and joints for this purpose. Only when the
    disease process is overpowering does the body allow it to invade the
    vital organs, and even then the body makes every possible attempt to
    keep the disease processes out of the heart and brain. When a patient
    comes to us with disorders of the vital organs, we know the vital
    force is weak or these areas wouldn't be affected and therefore the
    cure will be prolonged. Under treatment, the symptoms will subside
    and recede from the more vital areas to the less vital areas, and the
    symptoms may even end with a healing reaction on the best eliminator
    of all-the skin.

    3. Herring's third rule states that the symptoms move from the top of
    the body downward, disappearing first from the head, then from the
    thigh to the knee, ankle, and foot. We frequently encounter this last
    pattern, wherein the pain will go from the abdomen into the hip, then
    thigh, then knee and then in and out the foot. These patients often
    comment: "You know, Doctor, I'm sure when it gets down to the foot,
    it will just go out the toes and be gone." They usually are correct.
    The functioning of the third law is based on a principle similar to
    the second. Because the more vital areas are found in the head and
    upper portion of the body and those of less importance are
    encountered toward the extremities, the third law is a symptomatic
    extension of the second law. Its nature is important to the physician
    but not particularly to the patient.

    From these laws, a patient may realize that under proper homeopathic
    treatment he could re-manifest symptom patterns from an earlier stage
    of his life, only if these conditions weren't fully corrected
    originally. If he had so lived that the body didn't have residual
    disease material, it wouldn't be necessary to go through this
    retracing regimen.

    The homeopathic and natural healing physician look on chronic disease
    as the consequence of improper nutrition, emotional tension, improper
    treatment with allopathic medication and an over abundance of stress
    from which the body is not able to recover. The symptoms or the final
    manifestations that occur are merely an end result of these
    accumulated body assaults. While allopathy attempts to battle these
    manifestations when they become objectionable, the true natural
    healing physician directs his efforts to overcoming the underlying
    causes, thereby resulting in a patient who is disease-free, not one
    who is just symptom free.

    There is an old saying; "You have to get worse before you get
    better." In general this is a lot of nonsense and it is used by many
    physicians to cover their inability to help their patients. With
    homeopathic remedies, however, this maxim may well be true. We
    attempt with homeopathic remedies to further stimulate the specific
    organs that are producing the symptoms. At first this stimulation may
    result in a short-term intensification of these symptoms, but this
    soon passes as the vital energy of the body responds to this stimulus
    and rapidly overcomes the disease. The homeopath is encouraged if his
    patient worsens slightly soon after taking the remedy, because this
    positively indicates that he has selected the correct remedy and it
    is having its desired effect. If the remedy is ill-chosen, it doesn't
    affect the proper tissues and no symptom will intensification result.

    Summary of Herring's Law of Cure

    Herring's Law of Cure tells us that we heal from the head down, from
    inside out and in reverse order as symptoms have appeared. This is
    the basis of all healing and we may have to get worse before we get
    better. If we are to heal the body of whatever disease it has, we
    must first believe we can heal. Then we must cleanse out the
    impurities and not suppress any discharge.



  • Reply #2 05/28/08  6:57pm
    Also housed here, on the best resource forum for LDN help and info:

    http://ldn.proboards3.com/index.cg...
  • Reply #3 05/28/08  7:33pm
    This troubleshooting guide is a good resource. And Brenda's page is a good place to look for answers. Thanks for posting them.
  • Reply #4 06/08/08  10:33pm
    Very interesting topic! I've been feeling pains in my legs, in my gut and in my hip. I wondered if the I am doing the right thing when I feel so blahh after feeling so well. Then it all goes away. Makes perfect sence to me-the Herring's Law. This sounds like ME! Thanks for the read. Makes me reassured everthing is all right. I am reminded again - Just Go with the Flow!
  • Reply #5 06/08/08  11:17pm
    Go with the flow and feel the heal :)

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