I think we all got tired. Rallying in th streets is all well and good, but the media won't cover it.
It's a quagmire, I havn't had time to fully study it, I was, but I was becoming ill, frankly. The drone attacks I find paticularly sickening and cowardly. It's like those sci-fi films you see where they send high tech robots out to crush rebels fighting a totalitarian regime.
The thing is, the US really has created an extremist enemy in it's quest for an agenda to stir up the middle east and claim its oil. (Iraqs oil sold recently remember)
It's reputation is at stake. Nobody wants to admit Adghanistan is Vietnam, with a desert, higher tech weapons and a more stubborn and elusive enemy. Nobody can accept another stalemate.
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Afghanistan
Posted on 08/18/09, 01:54 pm
Why are we in Afghanistan? And why is Obama getting away with troop levels that are as high as they were in Iraq, right after the invasion. Where did all the war protestors go?
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Reply #1 08/18/09 4:42pm
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Reply #2 08/18/09 4:44pm
my point is the U.S has made itself so hated, perhaps it really does need to attempt to kill or crush the Taliban/Islamic extremist/Jihadi movement. I don't know, you know? I'm a bit lost with it all. I'm trying to keep up with Honduras myself, because I find it one of the most important things to resist.right now. Afghanistan is just so ..hopeless. They're there, and they didn't ask the worlds permission to do it, so what can we do, only seek the truth and condem it I guess. Educate people -
Reply #3 08/19/09 11:01am
I think you don't see as many protests against Afghanistan as Iraq because the goal is actually to stamp out taliban and the terrorists/training camps that run along the border with Pakistan....i.e. no "false" pretenses of WMDs etc and so on. However....I see no point in continuing in Afghanistan itself...the government just brought in a law that allows men to abuse their wives (um, why are we defending this), and more importantly, the taliban poses no immediate threat to the US/NATO countries. -
Reply #4 08/19/09 11:02am
Further, you're seeing burnout in other NATO troups....it is a quagmire (unwinnable) and the US spent it's time/people in Iraq and are only really showing up now (and seem surprised at what a mess it is) -
Reply #5 08/19/09 11:41pm
Also I guess our government have proven like Chomsky says, that we do not live in any kind of democratic society. Democracy means compliance with U.S interests.
The opinion of the people doesn't matter and so we lose trust in them. They seem to think that doesn't matter, well we'll see. -
Reply #6 08/20/09 10:25am
"Democracy means compliance with U.S interests." how sad and true .............. -
Reply #7 08/20/09 4:34pm
It makes one totally understand how many turn to violent revolutions. It's simply so hard to get enough people to make a peaceful movement, I mean what if you're a minority like the mexican campesinos and the Zapatistas?
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