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Is Grief Less Shocking When a Death is Expected?
Posted in Anxiety by Julie Cohen on Jun 30, 2009

Last week we lost two American Icons: Farrah Fawcett and Michael Jackson on the same day.  My condolences go out to the both families. It was a tragic day that as an aside shed light on grief and the differences and similarities of a loss that was expected and one that was not.     

Some people assume that the grieving process is more painful and difficult for a sudden loss rather than for an expected one.  Some of you know firsthand that this is simply not true. You may have had to endure comments such as, "...at least you had time to say goodbye." Although it is meant to bring comfort to a mourner it can feel slightly discounting as if you should have already started the grieving process prior to the loss. Therefore you should not be as sad or shocked after. 

A loss is a loss regardless of the circumstance.  Even if you knew a loved one was going to die its always shocking when they finally pass away.  This is especially true when someone has endured a long chronic illness.  Caregivers typically experience a number of "false alarms" where their sick loved one is rushed to the hospital and told that the situation is grim.  However, a loved one may survive many crisis situations. That may give a caregiver a false sense of hope. As sick as their loved one is, it seems they will continue indefinitely to defy the odds. 

I remember thinking when I heard that Farrah Fawcett had passed away that although it was expected I was surprised that the news still took my breath away.  And likewise later that afternoon when I heard about Michael Jackson I had to have someone repeat it three times before it sank in that he had died.  Personally, I felt both shock and sadness as not only did I grow up watching both of them but also their untimely deaths were a reminder of how fragile life is and regardless if a loss is expected or not it is nonetheless shocking and sad.


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I don't understand how they have all forgotten Edd MacMahon also died.....he was as much of an Icon as either of the other two.In his own way. They will all be missed for what they gave to our society...in each of their lives personally and professionally.

Death is hard anyway you experience it!

Thank Goodness we all have DS where we can talk about our grief freely with ones whom accept us and our feelings and thoughts!

Love Rhea
By tiredtiredtired  Jul 03, 2009
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My late husband's cousin's husband is sick with cancer. It is inoperable and incurable. He is dying. It was said, shortly after my husband died, that "at least she 'knows' that he is going to die, and thus she will be prepared for it".

My answer to that is, Yes, she will be prepared -- in so far as he has been able to "put his affairs in order". But when he is gone, there will be a terrible void in her life. And NOTHING can prepare one for that. No one to talk to about one's day, about their work, about the new experiences they have had or new friends or even new enemies. No one to comfort you when you wake up scared, no one to offer comfort to. No one to listen to. It is a void. and nothing, not even time knowing your loved one is going to die, can prepare one for that loss.
By rsusselj18  Jul 03, 2009
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This is so relevant to me this week. My best friend died from pancreatic & liver cancer the day following Farrah and Michael's deaths. She had only been diagnosed 5 to 6 weeks earlier. To see someone who was vibrant, fit and healthy one minute, go to being hardly able to walk or talk for more than a few minutes and then dying so quickly has been nothing short of a shock.
Yes I knew it was coming, but certainly not so fast.... and irrespective of that.... we still hadn't really said "goodbye".
My friend was only 40 and in peak health and fitness - so her whole illness was a shock, let alone her death, even though I knew it was coming.
By ozfm  Jul 03, 2009
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I've experienced both. Family members and friends that your with one day -- are gone the next and that pain of losing them is immense. In March 2009 - I lost my husband to cancer. We knew he would not beat it, but somehow thought we'd have more time because he was a fighter. Toward the end of his life and even before that, we had many bittersweet conversations about him dying and me living and going on making the most of this life. I have that to treasure, we were able to make all our wrongs right, made every minute of everyday count. Does it make it easier -- no way.. I thought I was going to be able to handle this, but grief is grief and losing someone is still losing someone...
By only1kim  Jul 03, 2009
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My boyfriend died suddenly of a heart attack just five weeks ago aged 41. I feel completely overcome by grief and the only thing stopping me from commiting suicide is the thought that I wont end up with him anyway and i'll be left with this pain.
I have experienced the loss of my grandfather where the death was expected, I was deeply affected for quite sometime but in a calmer way. I know the circumstances of losing an elderly relative are quite different to that of losing a partner, but the raw pain and grief I am experiencing over such a sudden, unexpected death is immeasurable.
By foxywends  Jul 02, 2009
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I have expierenced both...and as for me it was much easier to take the expected death...than the unexpected, maybe just because I had more time to grieve, think, ponder.....i'm not sure. Just my expierence though.
By agirlinterupted  Jul 02, 2009
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True Colors, thank you so very much for posting the "Bill of Rights" as it's definitely worth reading and remembering!
By peachmom  Jul 02, 2009
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I don't know. I have been crying off and on for the last 3 days. My granpa is 95 and most likely has some sort of cancer. He didn't want treatment, so he didn't get tested to confirm the Dr's suspicions, but they know he had a large mass in his adominal cavity 2 years ago and we have watched him go down hill since. He has taken a major turn for the worse this summer with his legs swelling, decrease 'with-it-ness' mentally, etc. Mom called on Tuesday with a 'funny story' 'cause this man who fought tooth and nail a few yrs ago to use a cane actually said that a walker may be a good idea when they brought one over to his place in the independant living center - but he's not going to to take it it Bingo 'cause there's too many walkers in there. Funny, yes, but also a sign the end is near. Mom's a nurse too, and she also said it's most likely going to be soon. It is a little 'nicer' because I can take the time I didn't take when I was in school to keep in touch. But then, last night, I was talking to him on the phone and he all of a sudden couldn't her me. Called Mom and she said he does that often, she thinks that he lets the phone slip to where it's not right next to his ear and then can't hear you. I am finding that when the death of someone who's close to you is expected, it just draws out the grieving process.

That said, when it's someone you're not REAL close to, an expected death has been a little easier - but no less shocking. Grandpa's half sister died of pancreatic cancer around 5 years ago. We were never hugely close - she'd visit in the summer and do Christmas stuff through the mail - but it still hurt when she got diagnosed. I don't remember crying this much with her before I got the call, but I wailed when I did get the call that she had passed. Even though I expected the loss, it was no less shocking than when I lost a friend who was a flight nurse on a helicopter that went down. And I know that when I get the call that Grandpa has passed, it will still be just as abrupt.

Thank you 'MyTrueColors' for posting the mourners bill of rights. I actually needed that.
By RidingTall  Jul 02, 2009
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I thought I would also add my thoughts on the loss of Farrah and Michael from my blogsite http://www.thealchemyofpain.blogsi... .
Judy

Friday, June 26, 2009
Experience is the Best Teacher
Today the world remembers Farrah Fawcett and Michael Jackson both going Home on the same day. Farrah fought her battle for a very long time and had the time to demonstrate that she is a portrait of strength and bravery. Michael left us suddenly. Farrah's friends and family were Blessed with time to 'prepare' if you will, but MOST importantly, time to share. I loved deeply and lost suddenly like Michael's loved ones. I can't think of one thing I would't give to have had time with Nicholas at his moment of passing. I learned something, though, and that is the important thing at this time in my life. Live every moment to the fullest as tomorrow is not guaranteed. This is a cliche, I know, but now has special meaning to me and is enriching my life. Tragedy suffered without lessons learned is the worst tragedy of all.
RIP Farrah and Michael

Again, I really take exception when people tell me 'passing is passing." Obviously they never had a loved one die on the side of the road in the darkness of night - alone. Truly, that is really almost too much to reconcile in one's mind, as one could probably do after death from an illness. Just my experience, though.
By judy269  Jul 01, 2009
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I am 80-My husband died in 1988,my father 4 months later, after saying the cruelest things i have ever heard. i had lost 3 precious special aunts in the years before my husband died. Not only did i grieve but the only real comfort was my daughter and the hospital chaplains. There was a lot of hostility and i dont know why nor will i speculate. closure is difficult without comfort. I have nothing left for celebrity death i have grieved too much. And the grief was compounded by unexplainable verbal abuse. My church and faith helped. I hope no one has to ever go through this while grieving. Blessings to all. murs
By mur  Jul 01, 2009
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I am sorry, but I must disagree. "Surprised" is a far cry from "Shocked" As someone who has been there under both circumstances, trust me when I tell you. I don't have to go into details as those who here one second, and literally gone the next, know what I am talking about.
Judy269
DS Bereavement and Widows and Widowers
By judy269  Jul 01, 2009
12
To each his own, either way, a process needed. Any loss reaches into one's heart, cannot be neglected.
By it2speaks  Jul 01, 2009
11
Grief is not any easier when one expects it. In 1993 my dear mother died suddenly, in the middle of what was called the biggest blizzard in 100 years. To this day I look at snow and think of my mother. Three months later my father had a third stroke and died too. I knew Dad was ill but it was no easier and losing both parents 3 months apart was a shock too. I never got to grieve for my mother and my dad was gone too. The only thing that helped me get throught it was my faith.
By leelew  Jul 01, 2009
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What disturbs me is that the media plays up the more sensational deaths while letting others fall to the background. Every single person matters!!! The fact that troubled people w/serious issues are IDOLIZED, especially after their death bothers me even more.

I recently started a grief support group for all losses, not just loss due to death, because so many losses are marginalized. Unfortunately, even loss due to death can be marginalized because people want to put a time limit on grief and mourning.

We really don't know how to grieve in this country. There is no "Loss 101". Part of the purpose of grieving is for us to redefine ourselves & our lives without our loved one and that takes time and effort. The only way past the pain is thru it.

The Mourners Bill of Rights

1. You have the right to experience your own unique grief.
2. You have the right to talk about your grief.
3. You have the right to feel a multitude of emotions.
4. You have the right to be tolerant of your physical and emotional limits.
5. You have the right to experience ―grief bursts.
6. You have the right to make use of ritual.
7. You have the right to embrace your spirituality.
8. You have the right to search for meaning.
9. You have the right to treasure your memories.
10. You have the right to move forward in your grief and heal.
- Dr. Alan Wolfelt

You also have the right to grieve/mourn in whatever time frame you need. There is no “statute of limitations” on unresolved grief. It doesn't matter if your loss occurred last year, last week or 20 year ago. Loss that is not grieved fully and completely to acceptance, will remain unhealed until we allow ourselves to go through the grief process. Time alone cannot heal the pain of the loss.
By MyTrueColors  Jul 01, 2009
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I know first hand that it makes no difference if you know or not. When you lose someone you love, you lose someone you love and can never get them back. I really think it all depends on the relationship you have with that person, and your ability to "get on with life" unfortunately it took me a lot longer with some losses than others. And some I don't think I will ever get over.
By Owshen  Jul 01, 2009
8
Thank you i have been dealing with a Terminal illness since 2004 and it blows me a away when people think it is easy to have a time frame.
By DAREDUDE  Jul 01, 2009
7
I have been a caregiver for 2 different men that I loved. Shock was not a part of either death's emotions. All the other emotions were there-grief, anger, etc. It is much easier to have the time to say goodbye.
By StAugBeach  Jul 01, 2009
6
Not the least easier for us when Daddy died after a long illness. He had beaten certain death half a dozen times and was certain he would beat it this time too, and he didnt stop asking when he could come home from the hospice as long as he knew where he was. When Mama called me at 10:00 a.m. on a Tuesday morning to say *Your father has passed*, it was like a kick in the head.

Same again when Greg Moore and others were killed on the race track virtually right in front of me -- althuogh Gregs death was not announced for 100 laps, we all knew from the fury that surrounded the scene, the lack of replays of his accident, the life flight helicopter, the fact that his teammate was pulled out of the race, that odds were good he was dead.

P.S. I find it sad that the same people that are out in the street boo-hooing about Michael Jackson would not give the time of day to their next door neighbour whose father has suddenly passed away.
By Appleby  Jul 01, 2009
5
Missed one on that I was saving her till last but when I wrote son I gave way. Sorry
The one I forgot to put down was my mother. She is with my son, so I am not
worried about any of them.
Jesus Crist has the best of our family for whatever reason
RebeccaSue
By tartopp  Jul 01, 2009
4
There isn;y difference when you expect someone to die It is giving you a hope that a miricle
can happen. And when it doesn't then it is like a bomb dropping on youi.. I have been there
both ways.. Since 1989 I have lost 3 brothers 2 cousins, 2 neices, and 1 son the only son
I had.
RebeccaSue
By tartopp  Jul 01, 2009

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