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Time for some Natural Immunity
Posted in Avian Flu by Dr. Jeremy F. Shapiro on Sep 24, 2009
 

Remember back in childhood when Johnny got the chicken pox, everyone else in his class soon followed with those hundreds of lesions scattered over their bodies.  Children would be out of school until every single one of those lesions scabbed over.  In fact, I remember those chicken pox "parties" where Johnny's parents would invite any one over who wanted to expose their child to chicken pox, hoping to be done with the illness sooner than later.  Well, I've had that same vibe this past week as something has been circulating in my child's school...in the kindergarten corner of the campus no less.

 

Four nights ago, while at my mother's house for dinner (really good, thank you for asking), I realized my son just wasn't feeling great.  Couldn't put my finger on it but something was off.  The next day he awoke with a slight cough and maybe a low grade fever, but nothing too extreme.  In fact, I remember asking him if he wanted to go for our routine Sunday morning trip to the nearby middle school to kick the soccer ball around.  He actually said no but since my girls were ready to go, I didn't make too much of it when he declined the invitation.  But in hindsight, I should have assumed something was amiss right then and there as he usually is the one to be found dribbling a soccer ball around the house both day and night.  But it wasn't until he started complaining of a sore throat later in the day that I acknowledged the idea he was clearly coming down with something.  His temp wasn't too bad but his spirits were a bit off and he was beginning to have that crummy look.

 

I called home during the next day to check in on him (no, not like Ferris Bueller...he is only 5) and my wife said other than a low-moderate temp, a sore throat was the only complaint.  Now I had looked at his throat the night before and wasn't too impressed from the standpoint that we were dealing with strep throat, but on Monday, I decided to bring home a rapid strep test (7 minute test) to confirm we weren't dealing with this annoying bacteria.  And no surprise, he was negative for strep.  Now keep in mind, I'm a general pediatrician and these sort of symptoms are bread and butter pediatrics but I must admit it wasn't until later that night, did I think we were dealing with anything much more than a good upper respiratory infection (AKA cold).  But Tuesday when I left for the office I really felt we were actually dealing with something more...even the flu perhaps.     

 

During the day, my sources told me that one of the kindergarten classes at my son's school had ½ of the students out with similar symptoms to my son's and then I felt certain about my son's diagnosis.  H1N1 (still known as the swine flu to many) had found its way to my son's school just the 3rd week back to school.  Now I must admit it is possible this is just the regular seasonal flu just a few weeks early as all I could do to confirm my son's status is perform a rapid flu diagnostic test which says if we are dealing with strain A and/or strain B.  But since my son tested positive for strain A of the influenza virus (which is what the H1N1 strain is) and the county health department feels the same as I do, I feel confident we are dealing with the first cluster of H1N1 in our county since school has been back in session.  It was bound to happen at some point and other than good flu symptoms for 3-4 days, the only thing I've been impressed with is how easily it has spread...just like the chicken pox of yesteryear.   My son is now on the mend, just a slight temp and a lingering cough, but he is now glued back to the soccer ball once again.  It appears most of my son's fellow students who have acquired this illness are recovering in the same pattern as my son and most will be back to school when this low grade temp finally runs its course.  As far as the rest of us, I'm pretty sure my oldest and me picked this up in the Spring and it appears my youngest must have as well, as she is hanging in there just fine.  My wife may be dealing with the initial stages now but she's determined not to let this be more than a simple cold...she's a fighter like that.

 

I've elected not to treat anyone in the house with Tamiflu or other antivirals as none of us reach high-risk criteria and frankly, these antivirals do need to be saved for those who may need them down the line.  And by the time this week ends, I'll feel confident my family has natural immunity to H1N1 (whether from the Spring or this past week)...often the best immunity one can find.

 

Now, as I don't wish to underscore how this virus can be quite compromising for certain groups within our population, I refer you all to the CDC website for more complete details of where the H1N1 virus stands and the vaccine that will be soon available here in the United States. 

 

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/

 

Be well,

 

 

Dr. Jeremy



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as for the vitamin D statement i agree with it. The founder of the council even suggests taking 2000iu per kilo of body weight for three days. (a 200lb individual would need 90 000 iu) he states he has been useing this clinically for years and had good results. on the suggestion of another Dr i took pharmological doses of 50 000 iu for three days once i became infected with a flu bug. on the first day my fever broke. thoguh im not 100% i am much better than i have been in previous years after getting a flu bug.

we are much better off taking health into our own hands and eating well exorcising getting enough vit D from all sources including sun useing proper sanitation (but not over santitation as done in hospitals that breeds super bugs) and supporting our immune systems.
By raeofsunshine80  Nov 05, 2009
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Dr. Shapiro,

I take it that you're not very familiar with Vitamin D's huge impact on your innate immunity system? www.vitaminDcouncil.org for a lot of information about vitamin D. When the vitamin D blood level is maintained at 50-80 ng/ml, you're pretty much protected from flu and cold. It also cuts down drastically on some cancers and many others.
By LouisT  Oct 25, 2009
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This vaccine, the currant one, that's suppose to be used for H1N1 flu is filled with curious things. Tell me how do things like detergent and mercury help in fighting the flue? What about the ingredient that is suppose to be for sexual transmitted deseases?
Since all indications are that this virus is man made, and then it was release to test it's effect, this whole mess strikes me as nothing more than some kind of major effort to make people sick or worse.
I know big pharma is bennefitting, but what about the ordinary person.
The shoulting of pandemic! pandemic is nothing more than a massive scare tactic.
The regular flu kills lots of people every year. But apparently we now have this new and imporved flu that we "have" to get this vaccine for.
I have listened to several doctors who are standing against this redicilous mess.
There are nurses in the uk who have refused it.
If these people who have gone through school and have degrees are standing against it and saying it's bad and all the information that is avalible on the vaccine and it's ingredients are telling us point blank this is a bad deal, then why is it still being sent out and administered?
By wendy77  Oct 05, 2009
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I live in asia and the H1N1 swept through our international school just 2 weeks into the school year. About 10% - 20% of the students were out ill on any given day. The school taught the students about the importance of hand washing, coughing sneezing into your sleeve not your hande etc. They implimented extra sanitation in the classrooms and boarding houses and monitored #'s in individual classes but never closed a classroom.
I was the 1st in our family to have it (altho I didn't realize it at the time) next my youngest, 11 years old. Many people took the tamiflu I opted not to give it to my family. The only difference between us and those that took the meds seemed to be a bit more comfort and possibly 1 day less before they recovered. One family with an 8 year old diagnosed with H1N1 ended up with the Doc rec the entire family take tamiflu. The parents, 26 and 32 included with no symptoms! I am not of the mind set that you suppress the bodies symptoms and thus do not allow it to do its job in healing you. My 13year old has just returned to school after her turn with it, it takes (at least for us and most around us) about 10 day to 2 weeks to really recover, but I believe we have all built up our immunity by allowing it to run its course. Be vigilant, give them rest, watch the fever, ours got very high and only then did we take tylenol (over 103) I have always been taught the fever is your body doing its job, let itrun unless it reaches danger level. For most it is not anywhere near as scarey as the media made it out to be. Just my 2 cents worth :-)
By lwbg  Sep 28, 2009
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When did the flu begin encompassing sniffles and a cough? I learned that was the differentiation between a cold and the flu, well that, and a fever. I had a common cold a couple weeks ago, no fever, slight upper respiratory, and it felt like I had a scarlet letter on my forehead. I, as far as I know and remember have never had the sniffles and cough at the same time as the body aches and fever that I recognize as flu.
By SigS  Sep 28, 2009
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I had the swine flu back in August but my son didn't get it. Is it true that you can get the swine flu more than once, this is what I was told and don't know how true that is.
By insomniac66  Sep 27, 2009
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flu vaccine is defienetly good for the pharmaceutical companies only since it makes them huge amount of money. My daughter who suposedly got vaccineated with the flu vaccine came down with these terrible symptoms and of course the pediatricain refuses to beleive that they had something to do with it!!!
this is her last time getting vaccinated with flu vaccine.
By nazy  Sep 27, 2009
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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/... ... This is information from a medical doctor about the flu and the vaccines for it. It's good to be informed.
By RaeDreams  Sep 26, 2009
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I guess the news of the vaccines being tainted hasn't reached all the doctors yet? There is much controversy out there as to the safety and efficacy of the flying pig flu. There have been articles out to say that many health care professionals would refuse the vaccine due to its untested and unsafe status. I know that neither I nor my children will be taking it. Something is very wrong in the system that lets companies that were already proven to make unsafe and tainted vaccines in the past (Baxter) make the next generation of vaccines for the flying pig flu. I say, let us all beware.
By RaeDreams  Sep 25, 2009
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I have always thought I was too healthy to get the flu! I wasn't 55 when those thoughts entered my mind. My mother in law talked me into the flu shot last year, and yes, I got the flu. Just a week in bed, but enough for me to think of myself as "not strong like I used to be". Stupid, what if we had a world that feed us good news, empowered us to be healthy and not scared every time someone coughed our way. Of course wash your hands, be kind to others, and share! Same thing my kindergarten teacher taught me oh and eat your veggies.
By shotzy54  Sep 25, 2009
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In the Fall of 1991 we were warned in Australia of a deadly flu coming our way from Asia. For some reason I listened to this message, and took it on board (I allowed the seed to be planted).

I had a relationship breakup a little time later, I was unhappy beyond belief (I have a very tender heart). I suddenly came down with the flu, and I had never had the flu before in my life. I had to go to the toilet, and the next thing I found myself laying on the floor, I had to call my daughter in to help me up, I was 31 at the time, and a reasonably fit person thankfully.

I had the symptoms for two weeks, and for sure as hell believed I was going to die, afterall this strain of flu was a deadly one. I did not die obviously, yet another media overstatement then perhaps? I was guilty of believing something that in reality did not exist, I no longer allow outside plant seeding of me.
By BeatinBP  Sep 25, 2009
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So it is not the deadly virus that it has been made out to be, by the media at least? A BEAT UP THEN?

Of course unhealthy people run the risk of contracting illnesses of a deadly kind for so being, but I am firmly of the belief that acceptance of misinformation can be just as deadly. Our Federal Government (Australia) apparently will soon have enough vaccine to immunise every one of our 19+ million population, an over reaction then perhaps?
By BeatinBP  Sep 25, 2009
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http://www.honeydontcough.com/otcd...

like this link

They are quick to say the kid died "from the flu"
By Olismom  Sep 24, 2009
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I am glad you all have recovered.
Here nearby our old home, a girl died. They claim it was H1N1. I think there was something not understood. The girl was given medication by the doctor, but it is unclear what else, as if she had additional and not compatible something else, or a reaction to the med.

I thing the sick party is a great way to develop a health immune system. Personally though, I do not party that much, so I tend to just be healthy without flu vaccines.
By Olismom  Sep 24, 2009
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I am old enough to remember when childhood illnesses ran through families and the families were quarantined and had to produce a doctors certificate stating no one had been exposed for two weeks before we could return to school. Today you would not be able to enforce a quarantine; parents would assume it didnt mean them, and send their kids off to daycare to infect everyone else. We had a measles and a mumps outbreak in Toronto because there was one at an Atlantic university and the university sent everyone home, where they refused to remain and instead went clubbing, spreading their germs far and wide. Since in that age group, mumps can result in sterility, this is sawing off the branch on which the guy is sitting, but Lord help us if we ever, ever do what we are told to do! The SARS quarantine had to be enforced by the police, after one defiant employee caused a 350-man firm to be shut down.

Fortunately I am old enough as well to have had every childhood disease except mumps, which swept my family but never me, and that includes the last round of Swine Flu, and I am immunized against everything else. But if anyone tells me to quarantine, I will certainly do so.
By Appleby  Sep 24, 2009
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I'm in the older age group that should have the vaccine. But I have problems with every med I have had to take. As I get older this sensitivity gets worse. It now includes pain meds too. I am blessed with being very healthy and seldom have to take even a tylenol.Maybe twice a year.
I am taking my chances and not taking the flu shot. The risk is not worth it to me. I live far out of town and am outside in the fresh air and live alone. I think I might have already had a mild case of the flu earlier this summer. Fever, sore throat and a cough.
By trisha9054  Sep 24, 2009
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Good to hear from everyone but I must say in theory, I am in favor of the H1N1 vaccine. I'd just like to hear a bit more about the safety profile from the testing groups.
By DrJeremy  Sep 24, 2009
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Thank you for posting this. = )
Last week I read several articles about vacs for H1N1 and the other general flu shot. Even though I have a 7yo and I have asthma, I am opting to not get the shots for him, nor I. Call it a gut feeling or whatever, but the articles helped to put it in place so it's something more than just a feeling. Thanks for the reminder to watch our kids more closely and identify illness more quickly. I know sometimes I'll wonder why my child is so crabby, and then the next day I know why! I think we can help our natural defenses along with getting adequate rest, eating well, and all the things you doctors tell us. = )
By mechellebelle  Sep 24, 2009
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Try looking into natural immunity treatments such as those using essential oils marketed by Doterra.com.
By tbiKelly  Sep 24, 2009

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