Unsolicited AdviceWell, it certainly seems that despite my intentions not to spark any unfavorable dialogue regarding vaccines in a recent writing, I obviously failed. And while I always appreciate hearing what others have to say, I am certain we can do this in a respectful manner. My plan this time around is to continue sharing some of the basics about the following vaccine-preventable diseases as well as share (when warranted) my perspective on their respective vaccines. And then, I certainly encourage everyone to communicate any thoughts or concerns they might have...with just one request, please remain tolerant of each other.
Varicella (AKA chicken pox): Many of us had the chicken pox...those 400-500 lesions scattered all over our bodies. The lesions tend to be very itchy and often accompany symptoms of fever, fatigue, and that overall sense of just feeling crummy. Prior to the vaccine, spread from person to person didn't require too much...just being in the same room is all that it took. Spread can also occur from direct contact with the lesions and the incubation period (from time of exposure to disease symptoms) is about 2-3 weeks. Unfortunately, one is contagious in the 24-48 hours prior to any lesions appearing and lasts until they all have scabbed over. Now a question I receive time after time is "I got the chicken pox and I did just fine, why does my child need the vaccine?" And while I do agree that chicken pox tends to be a mild disease, significant morbidity and even mortality can occur. Prior to the vaccine, 1 out of 500 children with chicken pox required hospitalization (with some of these children developing encephalitis) and of 100,000 infants who acquired the illness, about 4 would die. Furthermore, if a pregnant woman acquires the infection during the latter stages of pregnancy (just prior to giving birth or just after delivering), a great percentage of these newborns die. Since the vaccine was introduced in the mid-1990s, the above numbers and concerns have certainly subsided but there are a couple of things that deserve mention about the vaccine:
Hepatitis A: Although quite often a self-limited illness, symptoms usually include poor appetite, jaundice, fever and again, that overall sense of feeling crummy, but it should be noted in children less than 6 years of age, only 30% will be symptomatic. Acute liver failure is rare with a case-fatality rate of about 0.5% and chronic liver disease will not occur with Hepatitis A (see other Hepatitis infections). Transmission typically occurs via the fecal-oral route and the incubation period (the development of symptoms) is about 28 days (but even up to nearly 2 months), so by the time a community has an obvious outbreak, many members of the community will already by exposed. The vaccine schedule for Hepatitis A includes 2 doses (with 6 months between doses) beginning as early as 1 year of age.
Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR): The characteristics of measles includes, fever, rash, cough, runny nose, "red eyes", and some particular lesions (AKA Koplik spots) that can be found inside the mouth. A wide range of complications can occur, but the more concerning ones include encephalitis (1 in 1000 cases), subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE)...typified by a degenerative process in the central nervous system resulting in significant behavioral and cognitive loss and seizures, and death (1 to 3 children in 1000 cases). Mumps is characterized by swelling of the salivary glands, most often the parotid glands...which are found in the head and neck region. A wide range of complications can occur...including hearing deficits, neurological deficits and orchitis (inflammation of the testicles) which can result in sterility. The symptoms of rubella typically are mild and usually involve rash, swollen lymph nodes and a low grade fever but there still exists (albeit very small) some complications including encephalitis. The greatest concern surrounding rubella, however, involves a woman acquiring rubella during pregnancy, which can result in miscarriage, fetal death or congenital rubella syndrome...which can include eye, heart, hearing, and neurological consequences. I've seen this and all I can say it can be so very devastating for a family to deal with.
And what about the MMR vaccine? Well, it's no secret that this vaccine began the whole vaccine-autism controversy over a decade ago. So for those looking for my take and a little bit of history behind the controversy surrounding this vaccine, I ask that you take a look at something I wrote a few months back...http://www.dailystrength.org/blog/410-history-behind-mmr. And while I see no evidence to support splitting the MMR into individual components, I will agree that I am disturbed that the pharmaceutical company who had been making the individual vaccines, just recently ceased their production without any public explanation. In a time where this is so much distrust and conspiracy sentiment, straightforward communication is key.
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A while ago I had this dream about having sex with some guy that I had no idea who he was. It stood out a lott because it wasn't one of those dreams that you just KNOW that you had sex, but it actually showed me having it.. Anyway, I pondered over it for a while and blew it off for nothing but an over-active imagination.
Maybe a month later I had another dream, only this time it was about telling my family that I was pregnant. My boyfriend (the same guy as before) standing by my side as I break the news to my folks. That dream freaked me out. When I woke up, I was scared half to death.
My next dream, or should I say dreams because I had two about the same thing, I was having the child. The first time, it was still-born. I woke up with tears in my eyes and a horrible emptiness that didn't go until I thought about the dream again. The second dream wasn't as dramatic and the child lived.
The final dream was about the child when she was older, the toddler years. All I remember was that I was older maybe in my mid-twenties, the father was gone, the child was 2or 3, and that I loved the child very much. All I wanted to do was hold her and protect her from the world and it's hostilities. That one also freaked me out. It was such a powerful feeling.
I haven't had anymore dreams about this in a while now, but I was wondering if anybody could tell me why the heck I had them, and/or what they might mean?
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I respect those who choose not to like my in laws. Their 10 children do not have vaccines, well one because he joined the army, and they are all healthy children nothing wrong with them. But my sisters and I there is 6 of us have all been vaccinated again nothing wrong with any of us and if you ask me I believe the crap they put in our food is more of a trigger for autism then shots. But thats a personal belief not something backed up by research....
sja that is a quote from your comment that is mean. You accused me without any evidence of what you are talking about. You choose to have to work. I chose to have no children until I could afford be a mom. I have given up my part time career to facilitate Oliver's healing and it is a great sacrifice, but worth it. You act like a non educated person and you should understand there are some children who suffer from vaccine injury.
I still look forward to the result of your challenge if you have the guts to accept the medical community at face value. Get all the vaccines for your baby. Girls have a better chance of not getting ASD than boys.
Like Denise, the therapists here say there is a huge increase in ASD with the latest group of little kids. It is not just better evaluation, it is a deffinate increase of mental issues that were not common a few years ago.
I also wonder why all this contraversy no one is saying not to vaccinate although I feel that is a personal choice of a parent and not an easy one at that. People are saying not to give 5 or more vaccinations in one day and to clean them up. Have you ever read any of the ingredients in them???? It is quite upsettling to say the least. I am not saying that vaccinations don't save lives but things should and need to change. My son got very very sick when he was receiving his vaccinations and to find out that he was allergic to eggs and other various things that are in vaccinations the hard way is unsettling. There is risk getting vaccinations and that is fact and there is risk not getting vaccinations and that is also fact. I am not sure what all this bickering is even about.... Olismom has her child vaccinated and she is not saying not to vaccinate she is saying to space them apart and I think that is a wise decision. Has anyone ever wondered why autism is on the rise... ADHD, ADD, auto immune diseases???? Our children are the sickest they have ever been and that is also a fact. We all want what is best for the children but fighting about it isn't the way. People can say that autism isn't from vaccinations or all the other things that are going on with the children but something is. It isn't just better diagnosis either.... my sons school psychiatrist has said in the 20 years she has been working she has never seen anything like what is happening right now. My town has 75 children on the autistic spectrum not to mention all the ADHD and ADD kids. Isn't there even the slightest chance that some of the kids have a weekend immune system at birth and can't handle all the vaccinations at once??? Why is it a one size fits all approach?? I am just saying that more research needs to be done and maybe not by the company's that are making the vaccination... who I may add have something to loose if they are wrong.... and that would be money. Sorry Dr. Jeremy I was really trying not to comment but this is crazy. Like I said no one is saying not to vaccinate (well maybe some) but maybe change things a little bit for the parents that want to take things slow. OMT.... there are all these sites about what happens to you if you don't vaccinate have you ever looked at the sites that list the ingredients of the vaccinations? Also, there is a risk.... just go into the immunizations site here on DS and check out some of the kids that lost their little lives after receiving vaccinations. Just wanted to point out that there are risks also involved in getting vaccination.
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My point is that I THINK it is irresponsible of parents not to vaccinate their children, you DO NOT have to agree with me. I trust my doctor and my parents who, thus far, have not led me wrong. I think you are an angry woman with an axe to grind, and that is your problem. I noticed you have autism down as one of your support groups, and if you have an autistic child, I feel for you. I have a close friend with an autistic child, and although I don't know what you are going through, I can sympathize. Arguing this is not going to change either of our minds, and I am sorry, but I feel that the risks of vaccines is far less than the benefits.
Do not tell me to get a reality check again. Do not tell me I am being mean again. My initial response to you was not mean, it was telling you an experience I had witnessed because of a group of peoples choice not to vaccinate.
I am an educated person, and have grown up in a household with people who are in the medical field. I know viruses mutate, I know that people are contagious before they show symptoms and I know that ALL medications, vaccines, what have you have some sort of side effect. I am not an idiot, and I would appreciate it if you would not treat me as such.
SparkyK, interesting read. I do have a question, though. You said that some countries do not have as many vaccines as we do. I understand what you are saying, but I have to wonder, do those countries have the instances of the vaccinated diseases that the US does/did. I have read that in some of the 3 world countries that are isolated from the outside world that some diseases we have, they don't have and vice versa. It happened with the American Indians. The settlers brought diseases to the New World that the Indians didn't have immunities against. Do the countries that don't vaccinate have the diseases we vaccinate against? Again an interresting thought.
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There are very real risks with vaccination and the compounding effects of multiple vaccinations given in quick succession to immature immune systems have never been studied. Never. When they added more shots to the schedule, and then some more, and then some more (and they are still adding more)- no one studied it. It has still never been studied. They refuse to do a study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. If you have faith in the program, I can not imagine a better way to end the debate and restore faith to the general public. If you are so concerned about herd immunity, then push for the study to be done. It appears that someone is a little too worried at what the outcome will be.
The questions remain unanswered as to why the countries with the lowest number of vaccinations on their schedule have much better outcomes than the U.S (which has the highest number of vaccinations on the schedule) - lower infant mortality, lower rates of autism, ADD, ADHD, allergies, diabetes. If you really wanted to improve outcomes for our children, would it not make sense to look at what the countries with the best outcomes are doing? We do know one group who do not appear to be handling multiple vaccinations well and that is our soldiers - our strongest and fittest.
My children are vaccinated. I did not research the issue at the time. I did not know there was anything to be concerned about. I respect the rights of parents who have probably spent considerable time and research determining that it is in their child's best interest not to vaccinate or to selectively vaccinate. I particulary respect parents who had an adverse outcome to vaccination and feel the need to inform others (since of course there is no disclosure in the pediatricians office) and our VAERS system for reporting vaccine reactions is pathetic. To dismiss all of these reports from parents as coincidental is offensive. Were you there?
No other parent is responsible for your child. If a parent feels that the risk of vaccination is greater than the risk of the disease, they are not responsible for risking their child for yours. If you feel you need to be careful about who your child is around when there is an outbreak of something, then do it. That is your responsibility. If you are so afraid that there are unvaccinated children in a public setting, such as school, then by all means, homeschool. And if you want other parents to be confident in the vaccination program, then stop insulting them and call your representatives to ask that the appropriate study be done. This debate will carry on endlessly until an objective study on the risks of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated are done.
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According to a report in the May 30 edition of the French newspaper, Le Journal du Dimanche, the Sarkozy government has authorized spending of an estimated €1 billion to buy vaccines allegedly to combat or protect against H1N1 Swine Flu virus. The only problem is that to date neither the WHO nor the US Government’s Center for Diseases Control (CDC) have succeeded to isolate, photograph with an electron microscope and chemically classify the H1N1 Influenza A virus. There is no scientifically published evidence that French virologists have done so either. To mandate drugs for a putative disease that has not even been characterized is dubious to say the least.
Even more bizarre is the admission by the US Government’s Food & Drug Administration, an agency responsible for health and safety of its citizens, that the ‘test’ is approved for premature release to test for H1N1 is not even a proven test. More to the point, there is no forensic evidence in any of the deaths reported to date that has been presented that proves scientifically that any single death being attributed to H1N1 Swine Flu virus was indeed caused by such a virus. European epidemiologists believe the deaths reported to date are ‘coincidental’ or what are called opportunistic infections.
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The French Government is developing secret plans to impose mandatory vaccination of the entire French population, allegedly against possible Swine Flu disease according to reports leaked in a French newspaper. The plan is without precedent and even defies recommended public health advice. Pharmaceutical giants benefit from the move, as the Swine Flu increases the trend to militarization of public health and use of needless population panic to advance the agenda.
According to a report in the May 30 edition of the French newspaper, Le Journal du Dimanche, the Sarkozy government has authorized spending of an estimated €1 billion to buy vaccines allegedly to combat or protect against H1N1 Swine Flu virus. The only problem is that to date neither the WHO nor the US Government’s Center for Diseases Control (CDC) have succeeded to isolate, photograph with an electron microscope and chemically classify the H1N1 Influenza A virus. There is no scientifically published evidence that French virologists have done so either. To mandate drugs for a putative disease that has not even been characterized is dubious to say the least.
Even more bizarre is the admission by the US Government’s Food & Drug Administration, an agency responsible for health and safety of its citizens, that the ‘test’ is approved for premature release to test for H1N1 is not even a proven test. More to the point, there is no forensic evidence in any of the deaths reported to date that has been presented that proves scientifically that any single death being attributed to H1N1 Swine Flu virus was indeed caused by such a virus. European epidemiologists believe the deaths reported to date are ‘coincidental’ or what are called opportunistic infections.
What we know conclusively is that the people who died often had prior respiratory complications of an undisclosed nature. People die every day with respiratory diseases. In the USA alone some 36,000 flu-related deaths are recorded yearly with no undue panic or alarm. Most are elderly or patients with lung diseases. To date in all France, 24 people have been identified by health authorities as even having ‘symptoms’ of H1N1. It is worth noting that the WHO and CDC list the symptoms of H1N1: temperature, coughing, headache, runny nose. Hmmmmm. Do you know anyone with such Swine Flu symptoms? Also worth noting is that in the counting of the more than 15,000 ‘confirmed’ H1N1 Swine Flu cases worldwide the vast majority made miraculous recovery within three to seven days, just as in the case of a bad cold.
The goal: Militarization of Public Health
Increasingly it is becoming clear that the successive waves of mass panic created in recent years by CDC, WHO and leading government agencies has an ulterior motive. We have been hit with mass panic over eating beef when cattle in the UK and elsewhere developed fatal illness that was called BSE or ‘Mad Cow’ disease. Later evidence emerged that BSE was the result of vaccination of the cows to kill harmless insects that got under the animal’s skin. More recently, after reports of incidence of what is called ‘Blue Tongue’ disease in cows, sheep and goats in Belgium and Holland in 2006, animal veterinary authorities in Germany, Switzerland and Austria imposed mandatory vaccination or treatment with drugs allegedly to protect the animals from bites by insects allegedly carrying the usually harmless illness.
The vaccinations of the animal herds has been made mandatory for an illness that typically was so mild as to go unnoticed and in only extreme rare cases could be tied to death. All animals after three months must be vaccinated. The vaccines, according to a report in the Swiss publication Aegis-Impuls from 2008, resulted in mass deaths, decreased birth rates, decline in milk yields, heart attack and other severe effects. The vaccines were used despite the fact none apparently had been previously certified as safe. They typically contained aluminium hydroxide and Thiomersol or mercury, as adjuvants and or preservatives, both highly toxic and both also used in most human vaccines.
Despite mass protests and reports to the veterinary authorities in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, the warnings went unheeded and mandatory mass vaccinations continued. Little wonder that farmers are taking their tractors to the streets to protest.
The report of a secret French government plan to vaccinate every French citizen over three months of age, over 100 million doses, is more than alarming. According to the French Le Journal du Dimanche, anticipating a probable return of the virus in the fall, the government will spend nearly a billion euros to buy vaccines. Authorities will announce in the fall if they decide to make the vaccine mandatory. "We will be ready to go in a very short time", explains the Minister of Health. According to sources, the state wants to order 100 million doses of flu vaccine from three laboratories, GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi and Novartis. The latter two are French companies.
The French report comes just after the State of Massachusetts State Senate passed a mandatory vaccination bill that authorizes mandatory vaccination against purported H1N1 Swine Flu. In New York State the state hospital planning authority is debating making mandatory annual vaccination against flu of all public health employees, despite the fact that no approved vaccine for H1N1 exists. More and more it is beginning to appear that the scare about pandemic from flying birds or flying pigs is an excuse to justify mandatory vaccination with substances whose harmful side effects are demonstrably worse than any flu they should guard us against.
Novavax, a US pharmaceutical company based in Rockville, Maryland, conveniently enough just announced it is developing a vaccine for H1N1 based on “virus-like particles” that contain three key proteins of the flu virus without the genes required for replication. The vaccine is produced by techniques of genetic modification of organisms or GMO. The announcement came within days of the company announcing losses for the fiscal year of $36 million.
The drug Tamiflu which is officially recommended by the WHO as treatment to ‘ameliorate’ the symptoms of possible Swine Flu or H1N1 Influenza A as it has been renamed, is itself highly toxic. Health Canada informed Canadians of international reports of hallucinations and abnormal behaviour, including self harm, in patients taking the antiviral drug Tamiflu. In some cases death was the result and severe lung complications are widely reported associated with Tamiflu, the drug whose main financial benefactor is believed to be its largest stockholder, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
In 1976 in the US President Gerald Ford, nervous about winning a close election ordered mass immunisation of the population in the face of a possible pandemic to show voters he was a ‘hands on’ President. The 1976 pandemic never came but a vast number of people suffered serious neurological side effects from the vaccine that was rushed into production, including 25 reported deaths from Guillain-Barré syndrome.
Mandatory vaccination with drugs whose side effects are unknown because they have not been rigorously and independently tested begins to smack of the kind of inhuman mass human experiments carried out in the United States with mentally retarded, prisoners and other disadvantaged people or in Germany during the 1930’s.
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I am glad your kids are vaccinate.
Oh I see you need to just be mean like the other very promean people.
get it right when you debate what you are so not doing yourself...what a card....
As for the MMR shot causing Autism, I was under the impression that in the medical field, there was no evidence to suggest that the MMR series caused autism, and I read in a parenting magazine in my OB's office that infact, research on several cases indicated that the Autism existed before the MMR series of shots began.
Olismom, I am VERY pro-vaccine, and although I understand everyone's right to have there kid vaccinated, I want to tell you a little story that happened in the area where I live.
I live in a community that has a bunch of little farm towns close together. There was an outbreak of Whooping Cough in one community because a group of parents refused to get their kid(s) vaccinated. Ok, that is their right, BUT because I had a baby who could not yet get her vaccinations for Whooping Cough because she was still too young, I had to be VERY careful who she was around. I understand that it is a parent's right to vaccinate their child, but on the other hand, what about the parents who do believe in vaccinating their children, and can't due to age requirements, that then have to worry about who their young newborn or baby is exposed to because others are so hell bent on acting on their rights. IMHO, it is irresponsible to not vaccinate your child, especially if you are sending them to a public school where not only is the child that is not vaccinated at risk, but every other child in the school is also at risk. Do you want to send your kid to school with the swine flu? I hope not, and if you do, let me know what area you live in so that I can make sure I can keep my kid home if yours is sick!