Marriage and Family Therapist
Cyndi Sarnoff-Ross is a licensed psychotherapist with almost twenty years of clinical experience in the fields of clinical psychology and organizational management br br She has worked extensively with a wide variety of…
How to Know When It Is Time to Move On
Posted in Anxiety by Cyndi Sarnoff-Ross on May 07, 2009

A Daily Strength member asked me to address the issue of how to recognize when it is time to end a relationship. The member wanted information that would help to identify when it is time to move on from romantic and platonic relationships. I wish there were a simple check list I could provide in response to this question, but it is a complicated one and one that requires an individual to think long and hard before making any drastic decisions. Loss is never easy and ending a relationship, whether romantic or a long term meaningful friendship is a painful endeavor. Some people consistently stay in unhealthy relationships way too long and those individuals need to embark on some self-exploration to break that negative pattern.

Couples often come to my office with this very same question in mind. It is not uncommon for me to hear a couple, whose relationship is in distress, ask if it is over and how do they know when to stop trying? Most "trying" that occurs before coming into a therapist's office consists of waiting for the problems to go away. This is not to say that all couples are ill equipped to manage the challenges in their relationship but it is not always an intuitive skill. It is one of the reasons I feel strongly that people should enter premarital counseling prior to making a serious commitment even if they feel their relationship is excellent.

Everyone has their own personal line in the sand - the things that a mate does or does not do that are deal breakers. Determining what that line is and why you have placed it there is an important part of anyone's journey to find a mate. The obvious line for many is abuse but then there are different types of abuse and that line can get very blurry. I can tell you that, as a therapist, I will not see a couple in my office together if there is current physical abuse and that is one of my therapeutic lines. I don't believe that any discussion or processing can make up for one person asserting physical power over another. This is a very common stance in the therapeutic community among clinicians who specialize in couples.

There are so many romantic notions of what a relationship should look like that when the reality falls short of those ideals people often check out. In my opinion, people frequently move on too quickly. Then there is the other side of that coin or what has been termed codependence. There are many definitions of codependence but a simple interpretation is when one partner waits for the other to change, is continuously hopeful that the change will occur, and it never does. There is a codependent relationship between the nurturer and the one that needs to be cared for. We see this frequently in partners of addicts and people who struggle with mental health issues. The repeated attempts to help or accommodate their mate become all consuming. Often outside intervention is needed in these cases to help both people go their separate ways.

As much of an optimist as I am I recognize that not all relationships can be saved and some are better terminated. When both people, whether romantically involved or in a close friendship consistently hurt one another, when the happiness factor in the dynamic is greatly outweighed by the pain and suffering and (this is an important one) one or both people are unwilling to make profound changes to remedy to situation then more than likely it is probably time to move on.



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Last night My husband was arrested and if facing felony charges for his abuse. I am reading this article and have to say that it is pretty clear to me that the chronic pain and suffereing definitely out weighs the rare happiness. Happiness is only when everything is on his terms and everything is his way!!! So it isn't even real happines, it is a "non-fighting" and non abusive period only. It hasn't been happy for years and years, My family is saying well, the kids, They will be devistated if you leave him, I feel everyone guilting me to stay in a sick relationship. I am trying to be strong and keep him away. I am angry that my family actually thinks I should still stay in this relationship afterall he is a good provider. WEll, I feel that I'd rather be alone and poor than with him and wealthy. I feel beaten down not only physically, but emotionally as well.
By andriab  Aug 15, 2009
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Well as to the comment of going separate ways,when mental health issues , or say ADHD,illiteracy, are present I would have to say that I have intervened in a wonderful man's life and alto their was rough spots till I pin pointed the real issue, he's doing so wonderfully well so far bridging the gap for him in understanding how he thinks differently and aggravates the crap out of normal people , driving away in the process every relationship he's had. But persistence pays off. He's making big strides now that he understands how adhd affects him and we're working on routines to correct his weakest points. To see him happy and reasonably productive again after being out of work 2 years, it's worth it.
By ancestralhealer  Jul 08, 2009
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Well, I am at the beginning of the end of my 7 1/2 year marriage. I have been emotionly and physially abusive to my wife. I read book called Violent No More and with counseling and freinds support I have awakened to a new life. I feel good and I know my marriage is most likely over. I failed to repect everything. My wife/marriage was just another innocent victim of bad choices. Blame, fear, and depression helped blind me from me, but I am stopping the abuse in its tracks and I am excited. I no longer get excited/agitated by anything. I stopped the anger and now only feel the pain, sorrow, and grief I have caused. I realize that all my relationships were affected by negative world view. But THANK GOD! I stopped. For anyone reading this who is THE abuser and you are a guy go the library and read VIOLENT NO MORE. Now!!! Remember to listen to the book and change. Not for a marriage, because it may already be gone, but for your future, your kids, and ultimately your true happiness. Keep your head up. It will get better, for you!
By StevenSurge  Jul 05, 2009
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Ending a 23 year marriage with 3 grown children has been very stressful. As mentioned in this commentary I have spent a year at my brothers home and going to college and doing a great amount of self discovery with books, counseling, ACIM and, christian holy bible guidance. While I was working away on finding out why I was so bitter, resentful and, angry at my husband, it was revealed to me that I was projecting much of the junk onto my husband. Now, do I have some reasonable grievances about our relationship, you bet!. None the less, I recognize what I can do different to help the relationship survive. However, he has not done the "work" needed and in turn he is angry and not going to reconcile, in fact, he has someone he is dating. Well, as much as I miss him I know what she is getting as a rebound and am not much threatened by this and I believe in gods time we can sort things out. I am very active with college, church and family and do not date. God says, "fear not for I am with you", so I am doing pretty good. Mostly, I miss having someone.
By seasonschangin  May 24, 2009
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Thank you Cindy for posing the breakup question. It is a question that I have been dealing with for years. My partner has OCD. She doesn't let me touch her or kiss her. Among the other idiosyncracies such as not touching any towels or linen n not going into the children's bedroom or her home office and not touching her things or else she becomes upset. It has been difficult to live with her. The worryimg drives me insane. I was laid off 2 years ago and her OCD sysmptons became worse. Fortunaely I landed a job but in another state. Isee her and the family on weekends. Life has improved.I want to formalize the separation and the response to Cindy is on point. I struggle to exist without a partner. Is it wrong to be happy because you meet someone else who fulfills your needs. Will the separation make her OCD worse? Or am I her cause for the OCD?
By rsamrsam  May 23, 2009
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"when the happiness factor in the dynamic is greatly outweighed by the pain and suffering and (this is an important one) one or both people are unwilling to make profound changes to remedy to situation then more than likely it is probably time to move on."

Thank you so much for this entry and for posting these words of wisdom. I am at a juncture where we're trying to decide whether or not to stay together. The thing is, I'm at this point not sure whether it is for a fact that he doesn't want to make *profound* changes (as I have made them), or whether it is like he said that the changes he made are just not as big as I expected (so it feels like he hasn't changed). I don't know. I'm just so confused and frustrated and agonized...
By SnowHeart  May 21, 2009
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I think a lot of what has kept me holding on past the point of health is an avoidance of the mourning that will come from the loss, even of something unhealthy.

Also, in relationships with any emotional &/or physical abuse, my counselor said the attempts to leave average 8 before the leave is permanent - true for me. Also in these situations, I think no contact if possible is the preferable way to heal for a time.
By Loved1  May 19, 2009
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i just started seeing a therapist.

my husband is bipolar & i have changed soooo much for him (because he said it was what he needed from me)

i've been taking care of him & he's on disability.

he just decided he doesn't want to be married, well his words were that he's felt like this for a year.

any advice is welcome.
By sadjenness  May 16, 2009
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im trying the 40 day love dare, but very hard with an athiest.
Seems like im the only one trying and after watching the movie Fireproof I am trying hard, but with my MS and his narcisstic, all about him obessions, Im seeing the days numbered.
He buys himself whatever toys he wants, boats, quad, motorcycles etc, and me? nothing, nothing at all, not clothes, not a thing.
Well, I was in a spot and he was making the house payments, but things are changing.
We were married and I divorced him then he wanted to get back together but seems like Im just dirt to walk on. Threatens me if I kick him out and is very verbally abusive, yelling putting me down, etc. I tell him to quit yelling at me and I walk away. If he yells, I won't talk or listen he knows that. He blabs waay to much personal stuff to people who dont need to know, I tell him to shut up. He uses things I have workd very hard for over the year and brags all about what 'he has' and really its mine. Its so pathetic. But being disabled, its difficult to kick him to the curb until I have my own income.
By briar  May 13, 2009
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I don't believe that any discussion or processing can make up for one person asserting physical power over another. This is a very common stance in the therapeutic community among clinicians who specialize in couples..replica watch
By Alise  May 12, 2009
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Contemplation is the hardest part. I have found that If I am not sure, then I must wait a little longer until I can see a definite path.
By hope4more  May 11, 2009
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The Hendricks have this great book, called Spirit-Centered Relationships. In it they answer this question, by having the people in the relationship ask themselves a few questions. It's profoundly simple, yet the last thing people think of.
By MAK1AH  May 11, 2009
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I have just terminated a relationship with a bipolar who means a great deal to me. I was codependent with this woman. I feel good that I have her in a place where she can support herself now but it's hard to get confronted with the "waiting / hoping / working for the change that will never come" phase and the letting go. Much heartache. One of the characteristics that I wanted to have "change" was the inability to discuss the episodes which put such a damper on our relationship. I think she feels like, if she discusses the episodes, she will sacrifice the relationship or whatever control she does have. The information I've read here and on sites advertised here have done much to confirm what I have experienced. I thank all of you for opening up with honesty and clarity for those of us just getting exposed to such behaviors. I pray for us all.
By AltanIslandAngel  May 11, 2009
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I am a struggleing sober addict, and while in treatment i was advised not to make any "life" changes.. That was 5 months ago,and miserable in my marriage, well miserable with myself. I am really putting in the effort and so is my husband ,yet i remain confused.
By msteinmacher  May 10, 2009
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I thought this entry would be about when to end counseling. I was not expecting relationship advice. I think the title is not specific and should, rather, be called something like "When to Move On: Guidelines for Relationship Breaking"
By al2gethernow  May 10, 2009
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There's an unfortunate alternative scenario to this issue in which I find myself: when the absence of satisfaction, happiness, desire, or other non-physical, less emotionally energetic factors saps the marriage of its vitality. I have been married for fourteen years. There is no physical abuse (wife's been down that road with an ex). We're quite amicable and even have "our moments". But overall, there's little else to call this a marriage other than the usual suspects - one child, a mortgage, and various expense in our name.

To be clear, this is not a transient "gosh I'm bored with my marriage" moment. I've felt this way for years. Because of the low energy nature of this experience, it's flown "under the radar" of my awareness eluding efforts to recognize, let alone remedy it. Numerous "band-aid" counseling sessions and other temporary fixes only drive the issue further underground.

I'd like to find someone who could credibly address this scenario. Until then, I'll continue as I always have living an ambiguous, unfulfilled existence.
By mstelly  May 10, 2009
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people should do this more often than not. to many people stay together for the wrong reason and you hear bad things about it.
By wantingtobehappy  May 09, 2009
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I stayed in a marriage for 24 years with all kinds of abuse going on...cuz I wanted to make it work.
He crossed the line when he moved on from beating me up to beating our children and the dog up. we had gone through 2.5 years of marriage counseling with no avail.I had 2 breakdowns and had to be hospitalized before I realized I and the 2 remaining kids had to leave. I filed over 4 years ago and he still won't let me go(dragging out the divorce)as to punish me for leaving him. I have been through many years of counseling in order to come to where I am today. I'm happier, healthier and in college to become a domestic violence counselor.
It is not easy to leave the relationship, but sometimes it means your life.
I can't change him...but I can change me and how I react!
By debbirdo  May 09, 2009
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Very tough questions to ask oneself but important to ask. There are no easy answers to this. In our society when leaving a relationship (marriage is so easy advised if the relationship not what is wanted or think it should be)Our society makes it too easy to leave rather then trying to save the marriage and workout the problems.
Mary@transitionaldreams.com
By mare13  May 09, 2009
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made no sense to me.
By joer  May 09, 2009

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