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Tinnitus, "ringing ears" or ear noise is a phenomenon of the nervous system connected to the ear, characterised by perception of a ringing, beating or roaring sound (often perceive...
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Tinnitus, "ringing ears" or ear noise is a phenomenon of the nervous system connected to the ear, characterised by perception of a ringing, beating or roaring sound (often perceive...

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I had a weird experience at the audiologist today and I am still processing it. I was getting my hearing aid adjusted with the fellow who sold me the set two years ago.
He went to some conferences lately and I started talking to him about developing technologies. I told him I had been web surfing and that I had been reading up on newer hearing aid technologies, i.e. the aids are getting smaller and smaller - the programs are having more and more features and that they were attempting to make the aids more and more powerful. I mentioned to him that one hearing aid was claiming to be more sophisticated in processing high frequency sound relative to someone's hearing loss and he said, "yeah, right - as if they could do that - the aids you are wearing do this - they amplify the frequencies you have lost and allow the other sounds to enter your ear naturally." I thought, "well, that makes sense okay." Then I mentioned that there were hearing aid developers claiming they can stimulate the inner ear a certain way; therefore, resulting in less tinnitus. He says, "that is every hearing aid made - of course, the inner ear is stimulated - it is actually receiving sound!" He then begins laughing - threw his head back and laughed. I left there convinced of what he said - it made sense. But then as I sat here and reflected on the person, his office, his surroundings and personality, some things came to my mind. Now I want to share this because some of you are thinking of buying hearing aids and there are like 25 companies out there - numerous audiologists and countless models and types of hearing aids and the price variables run between $1500 an aid to $5000 per hearing aid. I noticed the following things when reflecting on this office: 1. The office has wall paper from the 1980's - carpeting from the 1970's or 1980's. 2. The guy's computer had no USB Ports - it was a desk top and it had a floppy disk - with a gray floppy disk sticking out. 3. His computer crashed while tuning up my aids and he had to reboot and it took 10 to 15 minutes. 4. When it reloaded - the Windows XP logo came on. 5. Pictures on the wall showing people using hearing aids included Ronald Reagan, Phyllis Diller and several other people who either very old or dead. The poster said they were enjoying his hearing aids in the present tense. 6. He knew very little about tinnitus other than it exists. 7. He shared very little about tinnitus treatments and showed very little interest in the latest treatments and technologies and dismissed most things as pseudo science or rip offs categorically. 8. Described tinnitus categorically as something from cochlea hairs blowing out and transmitting random signals to the brain - everyone should wear ear plugs. 9. Has no way of examining the inner ear for problems or obstructions. 10. Diagnostic equipment on hearing aids told him whether batteries worked or not - beyond that he mails them off to be fixed. I have been to two other audiologists after this experience. One was associated with an ENT and the other operates by herself. For the most part: 1. They have current powerful computers. 2. They represent at least 3 to 4 hearing aid distributors 3. They are familiar with tinnitus and the multiple causes of tinnitus 4. They have attended conferences and can discuss most tinnitus treatments being offered 5. When they discuss tinnitus treatment options - they can give the strengths and weaknesses of each treatment and will state them - not just sell you on one and go on and on as if it cannot fail. 6. Have diagnostic equipment that can measure tinnitus intensity and loudness 7. Have experience with tinnitus instruments and know how they operate 8. Can look at the inner ear for obvious obstruction problems - and eliminate those types of reasons immediately. 9. Have been to the same conferences but seem more open minded and informed 10. Able to discuss that there are multiple theories and possible causes of tinnitus 11. Have some number of tinnitus patients at any given point. If you have hearing loss and tinnitus - you might want to consider these things because if you plunk down $4800.00 like I did for some hearing aids and this is what every visit is like, you will end up frustrated and you will realize - if there are technological advances and options - you will have to do the ground work yourself - Also, the last thing a tinnitus person needs to have happen - is someone blow off everything - call it snake oil and start laughing at other people's stupidity. Also, he seems threatened if I suggest there may be other options for tinnitus sufferers with the price point difference being less that $2000.00. This seems to aggravate him. One time he just stopped talking and tossed me out. So when you are shopping for hearing aids and looking at the service provider - look at everything - this is thousands of dollars - and you don't have that money laying around to toss at one person - say oh, darn, and just do it all over again a couple of years later. I thought of a couple of other things. The aids I am looking at upgrading to - are much smaller than the ones I wear - also the tubing is thinner and the plug is smaller - it is lighter - yet it is able with a remote control to play soft white noise or not and able to play the zen chimes or not play them. It has a voice program, etc. And it is less than $2000.00 more than what I initially paid - and the ones I have - I can do nothing more than switch batteries. So hopefully, what i have experienced so far can help people. Also, one audiologist I had seen has tinnitus - This guy said to me, "I am so glad I protect my hearing and I don't have that." Another ENT said to me, "well, one day, you'll need a CI - but that's later." So you got to go home and process the personality of these people and look at their office - the surroundings - everything - you will put out thousands of dollars - and will be hooked up with that person for probably three years getting repairs and such. When I walked into this one place they had a display case with only three models from one company. Posted on 11/05/09, 09:11 am |
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Great information! As I am searching for a place to go and a specialist to see, I will certainly keep this in mind.
Thank you so much!
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Mandie,
If I were you I would find someone(a friend) to go along with you and be your sensory protection. You are talking about spending lots of money with these people and you want to get the right stuff. Just because a guy has an older computer doesnt mean squat.He might not be the owner of the business(that is probably not doing great). I work in this atmosphere everyday. When I went for my hearing test and they tried to sell me the top of the line(I certainly didnt know what that was). I at least had my wife with me to feel out the atmosphere while I tried out these things. She is money concious and I will always trust her judgement with the money. I think it would be a great idea for our little community to start a posting of the best devices out there with as much info as possible so that we can help out. I can say this about my aid experience. The only thing I noticed about wearing them in the office was I could hear the receptionist crinkling up papers(possible throwing something away). That was the only difference. Pat
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For those who need a Phylis Diller reference: http://www.lewrockwell.com/rogers/...
The fact you mentioned floppy disks and Phyliss Diller in the same post has cured my tinnitus for the day. You are truly one in a million, Mandie. And i completely agree; hearing aids and creepy sales people with 80s haircuts, coke bottle glasses, and bad taste in wallpaper have always gone hand in hand. It's a time honored tradition.
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I just hope you got a chance to tell him his floppy disc was sticking out before you left.
P.S. I have had a computer of some kind since I was 15 and can honestly say I've never ONCE used a floppy. CD burners have been out since 1994 so while I agree with Dark Son, I'd still run if I saw anyone using a floppy. Oh man, the Ronald Regan and Phyliss Diller on the wall is seriously cracking me up. You have to get pictures of this place, Mandie.
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The reason I posted all of this is because as I tried to talk to the guy - he started laughing - like really loud and he kind of put me down and gave me weird looks.
At first, I left his office fully convinced of all he said - I just processed the whole thing - It's just that hearing aids are not like eye glasses - it's totally different - and when even your audiologist dismisses tinnitus and everything is a joke - Well, I probably overanalyzed it - but if I could do it all over - I would have saved my money for the hearing aids I am getting now or something - you know - not go through a whole journey - just to end up having to start over and buy new aids Like the ones I am looking at are half the size of what I am wearing and have several options on them The difference is around $1500 total - But, you know if people coming after me - can see the signs - like you are trying to find out the latest tinnitus treatments - your options and your providers are laughing and dismissing you - it just makes this harder - I just wish I could have made more informed decisions But on the bright side - if the aids i am getting just as good as the ones I am wearing - well, I'll have a spare if something happens - so that might be good. I wish I could hold out for the newest micro technology they are developing - just imagine - they pop these micro aids in and you wear them up to six months before they go out and you back for a replacement - you sleep, shower, do everything and no one knows - even you can forget they are there - that is so awesome.
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link us to an example of those micro-aids, Mandie.
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I'll try to find them tomorrow - apparently they are being developed but not yet on the market.
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Hey Darkson - you are absolutely right - I have to drive two hours each way and my friends and family are so not interested in what I am doing - everyone wants to talk about insurance and money and we don't move past that.
The only consolation I can take - is that if the aids are at least as good as what I have - I will have two pairs - also, I have up to 60 days to drop out of the treatment - I am supposed to sign a contract to that effect. I have been experimenting with white noise and it does help - but I can't walk around with an mp3 player in my ears instead of my hearing aids - I have to drive, talk, etc. I can't hear nothing with the white noise only - I am hoping this will give me a way to relief while having digital hearing I wrote this because after this experience, I thought - gee - if both sets of hearing aids are comparable - it's better to have tinnitus treatment options on the things instead of not - It costs nearly the same. Also, an audiologist has to be a good match - you depend on those people. Also, I tried the tiny CIC's for $6500 for two weeks - it totally occluded my ears so that tinnitus increased and then my voice sounded baritone - I turned them back in and went back to the BTE"s. Hey, if you have tinnitus - studies show that BTE's are better for you - the thin tubing and tiny plugs apparently don't totally clog your ears and allow for natural stimulation of the inner ear and helps to not make tinnitus worse - they think that plugged up ears and tinnitus does not mix well. God bless you all out there - Just posting because a lot of people are out thinking and shopping - I was hoping that some things that happened to me could help a better decision. BTW: Did you know a company called Songbird claims to direct mail preprogrammed digital aids on the internet - one is disposable - $80.00 per ear - and another one is $250.00 an ear on that website - if anyone is on the fence - I wonder if these would work - you have volume control on both models. I imagined that some people who go to movies or theater who might have trouble with women's voices and such - might be able to use them and adjust them as needed w/o a major investment - might help some decide if a hearing aid is worth the time and money. If that songbird aid works decent - that might be great to do if you are out on something that puts hearing aids at risk - like a day at the beach - a waterpark or such - I mean $80.00 isn't the end of the world - I have been contemplating it because I avoid anything that could suddenly destroy my aids - I might wade in the pool with the $80.00 one.
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