What is Parkinsons Disease
Parkinson's disease (paralysis agitans or PD) is a movement disorder often characterized by muscle rigidity, tremor, a slowing of physical movement (bradykinesia), and in extreme c...
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Parkinson's disease (paralysis agitans or PD) is a movement disorder often characterized by muscle rigidity, tremor, a slowing of physical movement (bradykinesia), and in extreme c...

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For the religious here, who think that PD has enhanced your life with understanding from others , or a wisdom that that the healthy dont understand. My views are: Well possibly very offensive, to the undeucated , but lets go for it
1. Does my suffering provide me with a courage and patience which offers the healthy an opportunity to show sympathy which you think helps me with my suffering NO, thats blind stupid thinking, to think that pd has inhanced your life with understanding from others, that has made you wiser in some form is stupid!! or totally desparate! Pd has robbed us from healthy bodies,!! I think understanding from others, should always be there. Healthy or not. thats basic compassion 2. Does this disease provide society with an opportunity to invest money in trying to find a cure for this kind of suffering? Like the possible cure of Stem cell research? No you Americans dont go there because of massive misguided religious views. 3. Can any one discuss misguided religous views out their in an honest open forum. NO NO , religion is like the untouchable subject, which is a very naive view for the uneducated 4. Apparently althougth a good god would regret our suffering, his greatest concern is surely that each of us shall show patience , sympathy and genorisity and thereby, form some form of holy character. CRAP!!!! 5. I want people to tell me their thoughts of God and disease. and why everyone in USA is so focused on God! Then accept mine opinion and i will tell you why God doesnt exist . Posted on 05/28/09, 08:05 am |
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I accept your opinion that it is your opinion. You, and I have the right to speak what we believe. I believe in God. Because in my life GOd has blessed me, GOd has been present. Even in the midst of this dam desease. I have seen GOd provide income when I had no work and no hope of work because of PD. How through his Church I am provided insurance to pay the large part of my healthcare. I have seen GOd's hand guiding and providing in my times of great need.
I regret you do not have that knowledge of God. I know you must think I am stupid and niave, a thinking person should not believe in this superstition. But I say in the midst of my dullness of mind, that with the clarity of Christ light that I believe in GOd, Jesus CHrist and Holy Spirit
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Peach It sounds as if you are crying out to be convinced that God is there and does love all of us. I lost track of the last God topic. My 17 yr. old graduated HS tonight. I missed none of his HS moments because I was here at home with all of his many friends baking cookies. I've had them all help in the kitchen--big influence on 30-40 boys and sweeping changes in my family all from being ill. xoxo Janis
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At first I was going to engage you point for point in what seems like a "If there is a God, why have you forsaken me" with my life story. If you want to know mine you can read my profile.
I tried "Anger" on for a while, didn't work too well for me. My God does not get any pleasure from the suffering people endure. Would be happy to discuss religion with you. While i don't agree with you, you have the choice to/not to believe. I will tell you that i am thankful for every day i have.
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Peachygirl, how ya been kiddo?
I'm sorry I've been gone for quite a while, taking care of mom and her house and all it's belongings...so I haven't had alot of time to check in here and catch up. You've recovered from the fires? I'm sending you good vibes, as I have been even though I'm not around here. When I'm faced with something I believe I can't handle, not one more thing I just can't handle, after the smoke has cleared I try to turn it into something good...well, not "GOOD, TERRIFIC!!"...but something not so negative. It's a survival mechanism... ya know that thing about if you cant beat em, join em...? Something like that. None of us have ever seen God, or heard his voice, or have any 100% proof positive that he is out there...it's pretty much blind faith. Many of us prefer to have that blind faith...it's all in our hearts and our heads and our souls. Peachy, perhaps if I had PD and I woke every morning with no way to rid myself of it...perhaps I would try to take all that happens to me, ie, peoples attitudes towards me, the diffculties I face...perhaps I would try to find some little speck of positivity in it in order to turn it around and survive.. I believe I read somewhere along the way that so much of our physical well-being is affected by our emotional well-being. Many people believe in God, and heaven and hell, because it's better than believing that you just die and turn to dust. What does it hurt? What does it hurt if pd people tell themselves that there is a good side of having it, if something good actually iscoming from it? What does it hurt? It helps them get through it, it helps them cope, helps them get up every morning and start all over again. Nobody else has to agree, or believe it also, but just let them do or believe whatever it is that gets them to get up everyday and face the nastiness of PD... see what I mean? Isn't it okay for them? Okay if it doesn't work for you hon, but it works for them...so it has to be okay. When my mom was in the ICU, I prayed so hard, as I'm sure many do...and I firmly believed it worked. Many times in my life I've looked to my God for help and ta da!! I got help. Works for me..my Catholic upbringing leans me that way also....believing in a higher power works for me...that's all that I need to know. And if others want to believe then hoooray for them, and if they don't....so be it. Anyway, that's my take on it...religion is a big thing to ME, but I dont have a problem with anyone else's religion or their lack thereof....love you kiddo..xo
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Well here we go again. Hay girl not to worry your self America has become as godless as the rest of the world.
A few things you are yet still unaware. Let's pretend you believe in God, does not like religious people.Religion you got it is crap. Religion is what man thinks God wants. yeshua wants a relationship with his people P.D is robbing us darn straight. It rains on the just as well as unjust.Gods people do not walk around in a bubble. Seriously we can hear you bleed in your words . Angery absolutely your entitle . The 1st year an MD asked me if i was depressed, I sneered and told him NO just really tee'd off. NEGATIVE thinking speaking can only do you harm Peace Yoo
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My belief is that God does not care what happens to us.... and that God is only interested in our response to what happens to us (no matter if one belives in God or not,....our response to life and what life deals us, is where we have control!)
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I am a caregiver for my wife who has Parkinson's Dementia. I have found that certain people have the the ability to show genuine concern and it is not dependent on whether they are Christian or not.
My wife and I grew up in the church. There are some people who follow the basic teachings of the faith, but they have no ability to have genuine concern about a human being in a difficult situation. I have found that when most people realize you have a long term illness they are ready to let you go. Yes, in the beginning there are the phone calls, visits, food, etc., but after awhile that all goes "South". I can count on my one hand the number of people that even keep in touch now. It is so sad.
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Im glad l havent made anyone angry, as this is a touchy subject.
I havent found anyone ever, who can actually define what God is. Theist beliefs ( God is a supernatural intelligence, created the universe hung around and cares about us, listens to our prayers, but does nothing) Deistic beliefs ( God after his initial creation well ran away, said here is your world, and has no specific interest in human affairs) Panthiestic belief (no god isnt a supernatural god, basically nature is god) Religion is the biggest superstition that has every been created. God doesnt represent religion. The trinity, is very confusing, one cannot exist without the other, the son, the father and the holy spirit. You cannot even get clarification on what that is? You cannot prove God, and l cannot disprove it. The thing that really matters is Love!!! we must all love eachother, and that is not God
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SOME THING TO PONDER
IF THERE WHERE NO GOD WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH ISREAL,SERIOUSLY.THERE WHERE NO PALASTINIANS TILL 1963 ''LOOK IT UP. THIS COLLECTION OF FOLKS SINCE 1960S HAVE BEEN IN CAmPS YOU THINK ABOUT IT THE OTHER ARIB NATIONS COULD HAVE FOUND ROOM TO DISPERCE THEM AFTER ALL THEY ARE BROTHERS, RIGHT? LOOK AT EGYPT THAT IS ONE BIG SPACE! thejewish people are Gods if THERE WHERE NO GOD WHAT'S TO FEAR
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It's all blind faith.
It works for me. I see the tiniest creatures who are so complicated and their systems function so precisely, and I think...this did not happen from a big bang...the human body, the human mind..space...every single form of life....I do not believe in the big bang...if someone wants to show me a more plausible alternative..I don't know. And as I write that I think, oh yeah, it's more plausible to believe in a "God" who is all three of the trinity, who we never see or literally "hear" from....oh yeah.... hmmmmmm........ BUT, I have blind faith. What I learned in Catholic school is that God also gave us our own free will with which to live our lives. We get all of our teachings from men who supposedly lived with Jesus, who wrote of his beliefs, perhaps through the years we have interpreted them incorrectly...who knows? But, I prefer to error on the side of God..it doesn't hurt me. If I had to wake every morning thinking that there is no God, no place to go when I die, no way to be reunited with the loved ones I have lost, I would be one depressed puppy. I don't want to be...I want to believe. I can't blame God for all of the world's injustices or diseases, or why babies suffer, ....human beings have created this injustice and continue to create more and more....we need to fix ourselves and not blame God for all the problems. For whatever reason, he apparently did not create us so we could all be puppets and he pulled the strings...we have responsibilities, jobs, supposed conciences, we need to be accountable in order to live with each other...it's not up to God to make us blissfully happy each day like robots. It's all I can say right now, I hope I don't sound too simplistic and naiive...but it's my life and the way I prefer to live it...it's all a matter of choice. Believe or don't believe because there is NO absolute proof positive either way...you just make the decision on what works. Peace
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