What is Narcolepsy
The main characteristic of narcolepsy is overwhelming excessive daytime sleepiness (EDS), even after adequate nighttime sleep. A person with narcolepsy is likely to become drowsy o...
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The main characteristic of narcolepsy is overwhelming excessive daytime sleepiness (EDS), even after adequate nighttime sleep. A person with narcolepsy is likely to become drowsy o...

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Both of my siblings show some symptoms of N, and both are around the age I was when mine showed up (brother is 17 and will be 18 in November, sister is 19). They have complained to me and confirmed even "small" things like increased spacing out, short-term memory loss, trouble with morning "fog," and SP/HH on occasion.
Now, when I was diagnosed with a heart condition that my doctors insisted was not genetic and likely was due to infection and overuse of antibiotics and steroids as a child, a condition that was and is minimally impacting my daily life, if at all, my mother ran out and had those kids tested every which way to make sure they were fine. Now, when they HAVE symptoms of a condition that impairs my ability to function on a daily basis and perform the most mundane and simplest of life's tasks just to care for myself and enjoy what time I'm aware of being awake, whether they speak with her or I do, she REFUSES to consider helping them get to a specialist or speak with their doctors about being referred for sleep studies. My brother obviously has moderate to severe apnea (I suspect he does not have N and would improve dramatically with treatment for that), and has since he was a young child, and my father has been on a c-pap for years for the same. She is a nurse and knows the risks of not getting treatment; for years she harped on my dad to get checked because she never slept for fear if she wasn't awake when he stopped breathing, he might never start again. So why is it she doesn't push for her son? Dad STILL falls asleep at the drop of a hat and he & I have discussed the possibility that he may have mild N. He has improved so dramatically since his initial diagnosis, and like me, he generally does not fall asleep if engaged in conversation or activity with others. He does not have the confusion and fog and inability to function, so he is not concerned about looking into it further at the moment. He figures at his age, if he can make it driving and get through work, a nap on the couch after dinner is not something to worry about. But being a teenager and sleeping 20 hours a day when time permits IS. I just don't understand how they watched me suffer for years and they still assume (ok, she assumes, he stays out of it) it's a matter of "being a teenager." You'd think finally having a diagnosis for me would help her recognize that there may be more to it and perhaps now would be a good time to get help, rather than six years from now. She sees how hard it is for me on a day to day basis. ARG! I'm so frustrated. I know that to her, some of it has to do with the fact that to an extent, I did self-diagnose. I had these symptoms no one was paying attention to or giving me an answer for, I had seen several doctors who insisted nothing was wrong with me when I knew better, and I did research. A lot of research. And when I found N, it fit. More correctly, when I found PWN, I fit. They fit. So I found a doctor who knew N and could tell me if that was it. So even though someone with a degree who does this on a daily basis confirmed that I was right, somehow I'm still a hypochondriac and a web m.d. addict. I thought a hypochondriac found conditions and THEN had symptoms, not the other way around? I didn't think they went to the doctor for one reason and came out with a completely unrelated diagnosis (such as when they found my heart condition) without saying a word. It's bad enough my boyfriend doesn't believe I have anything and insists I should be off all medicine, lose a hundred pounds, and I'll be awake and gorgeous and happy; but my own mother, a medical provider herself, will barely acknowledge my condition, has never said the word "narcolepsy" or asked about it, and I'm pretty certain has never done any research on it. Hmmm...apparently this was more of a rant. Sorry, guys. All out now. If you read it and it made sense, thanks for sticking it out and congratulations on having an awake day! ;o) Posted on 10/03/09, 12:10 pm |
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Read this in a xyrem induced hazy, so I will respond tomorrow...but as a Mom of least one child with N...I will have a lot to say...
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Ok as a mother...The idea that any of my children might have narcolepsy is terrifying. Especially when I have bad days. Now I am an intelligent person, I know that if it is there, better they start treatment sooner rather then later. Intellectually I know,,,but emotionally, as stupid as it sounds I would put off having my kid have narcolepsy as long as I could. I know magical thinking there...getting a sleep study doesn't give them narcolepsy. If they have it they have it whether or not they are diagnosed. I could try to sound logical and talk about being not wanting them labeled and it then being a pre-existing condition...I have even tried the argument with myself that they could just try stimulants for "Adhd" or to improve concentration...if they just prescribe stimulants for N why bother getting the diagnosis? Perhaps it is because it is from my side of the family I feel guilty? Perhaps it is just selfishness because I don't want to deal with the heartache of knowing they have narcolepsy? I did however discuss my concerns with my husband. He said he would talk to my daughter about a sleep study...I suspect though that as Dads are a lot like Moms when it comes to facing that their kid might be sick...he will put it off for a while too. Told you I had a lot to say...but it actually took me a few days to write it.
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I went to sleep at age twelve I went from straight "A" to the bottom of my class, Graduated from hs at age 16, Please get your son spme help. In the "50", "N" persons were dx as a lot of negatives. His school work will suffer, more than likely there is another hidden sleeper in your family. Sanford university, ucla in La, Uof C in Chicago, Dr cartright, Dr.kravtz at Pres St Luke in Chiago, Go on the computer and please get your child some help. Only you can do it. jzdly
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ok.....
First......if your boyfriend thinks that just losing 100 pounds will make you gorgous and N free he is on some other planet. He is not listening to you or you doctors. When someone really cares for you they listen and learn. Somehow this seems to be someone who might be controling. Is he with you only because he wants to change you? Or does he love you for who you are all good and bad........enough harping on him...... Now......I agreee that as a parent your afraid to think that your kids might have the same thing as you. Your siblings are young and they probably wont get testing till they are off on there own. Sure it would save them money in the long run if they could do it while still on there parents insurance but what can you do? One thing as a parent you have to worry about is this......when my oldest son wanted to go into the Air Force they ask for any health conditions. When you take your kids in for testing and say it does come out that they may indeed have N this labels them for the rest of there life. Sure my son may have some N tendencies here and there and I may have a bug in my ear wondering if he has it but if he had gone in and been labeled he would not of been accepted into the service. Personaly I think my oldest son will be fine but I worry about my youngest son. Still.......they are the parents and have probaby talked about this with each other and decided that for the moment this is a road they choose not to go down for what ever reason. You have told them about your condition but the ball is now in there court for good or for bad. the most you can do is make sure your siblings are informed so that when they get on there own they can than go get tested and get help. I know its very frustrating to watch but you have no choice.....Try to keep the lines of communication open with everyone as best you can but remember some people just plain refuse to deal with these types of issues.........my father who falls asleep at the drop of a hat and has fallen asleep while driving I have no doubt he has N and he also has sleep apena as we hear him stop breathing while he is sleeping......he refuses to go to the doctor and flat out gets mad at me when I tell him he has N. He insists that there is nothing wrong with him.........nothing I can do.....I hate it too!
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Thanks guys. You make good points. I'm usually much better at seeing the other side of things, but this one sits so close to home, I just wasn't getting it.
As long as it's not something that's going to harm them outright, and it won't, there's no point in pushing the issue. I'm just happy that the two of them are aware of the condition and have both shown themselves interested for my sake; I know they will know where to go if they decide they need to seek help for their own symptoms. It's hard to remember they are adults now too! As for the boyfriend...well, he's a whole different support group! lol In my completely un-professional but well-researched opinion he suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder and probably somewhat borderline personality and bi-polar. On good days, he's an amazing man. On bad days, I don't feel nearly so guilty for being a raging bitch when I come off the stimulant roller coaster. I tell him all the time, he can love all of me, he can leave me, or he can hold his breath, but I'm not going anywhere, and I only take his shit because I can dish it out just as fast and heavy. Admittedly, the question of whether or not my relationship is healthy and something I want to be in for the rest of my life is one I am diligently working on answering.
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Wow, your boyfriend and my son should hand out sometime because my son tries to give me the same line of b/s, but my son is a medical assistant and soon to be EMT who thinks he knows best and is just as narcissistic.
Medical professional or not, there are certain disorders that people don't believe are real. Through the years, most of us have been tested for everything possible to explain why we are exhausted all the time or were misdiagnosed for so long that we're at a point that we have difficulty functioning. Even the ADA recently added the sleep disorders to their definition of disability. Although they show signs of N, diagnosis or not, there is very little that the Dr.s are going to do for them anyway, but the bigger issue in tackling your mother's willingness to get them tested is to find out if she believes that N is, at least in her eyes, a legitimate disorder, or is she just in denial that her other children may have it as well. Also, keep in mind that if your mother is a nurse, she has seen her fare share of suffering and to face the fact that not one, but all of her children will have to strugle, is a hard thing to accept. Another point is the ages of your siblings, do they want to go for testing or are they typical young adults who have the "not me" attitude. As a mother, I have been pressing my 26 y/o son to go for a sleep study for a years because I know he has apnea, but he won't listen. Both of my sons have described episodes of sp (which doesn't necessarily mean N) to me and it frightens me because of what I'm going through. So you should stress to your mother that, as with anyting else, early detection is important, if for no other reason, so they don't go through 20-30 years of being undiagnosed, or worse - being misdiagnosed and treated unnecessasarily. I wish you the best, but unfortunately we can't force anyone to do what they don't want to.
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Believe me I know what you have to give up after being Dx with"N". There is a golden gatebridge law, in 1984, I asked my sleep MD about driving, on your drivers license, the question is asked , do you have any condition that causes a loss of conciousness,{sp}? to get dex, it is written on a triplicate Rx, one copy to the Rx, one to the government, one stays with the MD. Only attending MD's can write the Rx.If you should have an accident driving, your rear end is grass and the other party the lawn mower, YOU WILL GET SUED. some "N" can sleep drive, my rear is attached to my brain and I can and have driven sleep. in 1984 after the third accident I stopped driving. I am the only member of my family that has taken med's for "N". Belive me the price I am paying is high, for me was it worth it H--, YES.For twenty years I had a career as a nurse, I am off stimulants now because mof the heart disease. I am crying because the alertness and my life or that life is over. Work was my life. But I had a taste of freedom. Being a "N' can be a lonley esistance if you let it be. TV, most movies, church, quiet activities I simply cannot do. BUT, ther is a lot of things I can do and do well, gardening, dancing, listening to mbooks, looking for ways I can help,others, my can do list is long, make a can do list, get up, work at looking good, and find something you can learn and enjoy, God has a place under the sun for each of us, even sleepyheads.No one promised any of us a rose garden,Yesterday I cannot change, tomorrow I can.Today my senior Line dance group placed first, in the senior olympics, one senior dance alone, she was 84 years young.I will probably drop dead, dancing, making woopee or praising God, It won"t be sleep driving. jzldy life is good Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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