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TYLENOL WARNING!!
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Hello Everyone!
For the last year, I have been warning the list about the toxicity of Tylenol/acetominophen, especially since it it often combined with the pain medications many of us so dearly need to control our pain. I have warned everyone that narcotic/Tylenol combination medications are NOT GOOD for long term pain control specifically because of the risk of Tylenol toxicity. While there are many toxicities that we cannot avoid, this is one that we CAN. Today, the FDA called for restrictions on Tylenol and Tylenol combination drugs like Percocet and Vicodin. I am posting the article below from the Los Angeles Times, July 1, 2009, concerning this issue. I realize that some of you may have thought that I was Chicken Little as I trumpeted my warnings about this, but now the FDA has come out and made a SERIOUS STATEMENT concerning Tylenol. If you take ANYTHING WITH TYLENOL IN IT, PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS ARTICLE. Tracy http://www.latimes.com/features/he... FDA panel calls for restrictions on Tylenol, Vicodin, Percocet To address deadly acetaminophen overdoses, experts recommend cutting the maximum dose of Tylenol and eliminating Vicodin and Percocet. Nyquil and Theraflu can stay on the market, they say. Associated Press July 1, 2009 Adelphi, Md. -- Government experts called for sweeping safety restrictions Tuesday on the most widely used painkiller, including reducing the maximum dose of Tylenol and eliminating prescription drugs such as Vicodin and Percocet. The Food and Drug Administration assembled 37 experts to recommend ways to reduce deadly overdoses with acetaminophen, the leading cause of liver failure in the U.S., which sends 56,000 people to the emergency room annually. About 200 die each year. "We're here because there are inadvertent overdoses with this drug that are fatal, and this is the one opportunity we have to do something that will have a big impact," said Dr. Judith Kramer of Duke University Medical Center. But over-the-counter cold medicines -- such as Nyquil and Theraflu -- that combine other drugs with acetaminophen can stay on the market, the panel said, rejecting a proposal to take them off store shelves. The FDA is not required to follow the advice of its panels, but it usually does. The agency gave no indication of when it would act. In a series of votes Tuesday, the panel recommended 21 to 16 to lower the maximum dose of over-the-counter acetaminophen from 4 grams, or eight pills of a medication such as Extra Strength Tylenol. They did not specify how much it should be lowered. The panel also endorsed limiting the maximum single dose of the drug to 650 milligrams. That would be down from the 1,000-milligram dose, or two tablets of Extra Strength Tylenol. A majority of panelists also said the 1,000-milligram dose should only be available by prescription. The industry group that represents Johnson & Johnson, Wyeth and other companies defended the current dosing that appears on over-the-counter products. "I think it's a very useful dose and one that is needed for treating chronic pain, such as people with chronic osteoarthritis," said Linda Suydam, president of the Consumer Healthcare Products Assn. The experts narrowly ruled that prescription drugs that combine acetaminophen with other painkilling ingredients should be eliminated. They cited FDA data indicating that 60% of acetaminophen-related deaths were related to prescription products. But some on the panel opposed a sweeping withdrawal of products that are widely used to control severe, chronic pain. "To make this shift without very clear understanding of the implications on the management of pain would be a huge mistake," said Dr. Robert Kerns of Yale University. If the drugs stay on the market, they should carry a black box warning, the most serious safety label available, the panel decided. Percocet, Vicodin and similar treatments combine acetaminophen with more powerful pain relieving narcotics, such as oxycodone. Posted on 07/01/09, 01:07 pm |
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Wow, thanks for sharing Tracy. I take a high dose of percocet every 3 hours for my chronic pain but it is prescrobed by my doctor and he knows I take it this regularly. I do not combine it with anything else other than occassionally prescription ibuprofin if I am in really bad shape. Should I be worried if I am taking it as prescribed? I don't think I oculd survive without it right now.
Heather
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Well, now Im freaking out even more than I already was with the recent death of MJ. I just put a call into my rheumy about switching from vicodin (which i am completely dependant on from this recent flare up) to Norco....Tracy.....is this something that would make you sick first (from the liver failure) or would you just DIE if your taking the same amount you have always taken with no problem....
Hugs Melissa
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Have no fear, ladies, your docs can give you the SAME active ingredient in your meds but WITHOUT the Tylenol. Those meds Percocet, Darvocet, Vicodin were designed for SHORT TERM USE. These drugs were never intended for chronic pain patients and are misused by many docs. Talk to your rheumies and get versions WITHOUT Tylenol.
And Heather---many docs lose track of how much of a med a patient is taking. I would not take it for granted that just because a doc gives it to you it is safe. I don't know how much percocet you are taking, but per the article the MAXIMUM SINGLE DOSE is 650 mg. Your Percocet will have a split number, something like .15/250 mg. The 2nd number is the Tylenol grams. Multiple the number of pills by that figure to get the total number of mg of Tylenol you are taking. If it's over 650, it's too much. And of course adding alcohol or methotrexate increases the risk since they both affect the liver. Melissa---I honestly don't know whether a person develops toxicity slowly or drops suddenly from it. Do not freak out, however. Just calmly call your doc and talk to him about it. Given the article in the paper today, you won't be the only call like this he gets today!! Tracy
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Thank you Tracy....Ok, how do I figure out the tylenol amount in the vicodin 750 again? Im trying to stay calm and waiting for my rheumy to call me back....If anyone has the time (which I dont because of ryan) to see if a person just croaks from the tylenol or gets sick first, please post it. I did have my liver blood work last week and it was fine.
Hugs to all Melissa
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This was a useful post. Thank you.
It's so easy to take 1,000 mg of Tylenol. Two pills! So taken 4 times a day? Yow. I gotta stop that.
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I never could figure out why they added the acetamenophen to them anyway. I was constantly having to explain this very issue to my mother in law. To me, it was a waste. I receive no benefit from tylenol. Everyone is different though. I couldn't believe my ears when my own mom said "can I just have a tylenol?" after open heart surgery because she didn't want to feel "drugged".
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