What is Interstitial cystitis IC

Interstitial Cystitis (commonly abbreviated to "IC") is a urinary bladder disease of unknown cause characterised by pelvic and intense bladder pain, urinary frequency (as often as ...

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I am very discouraged right now. . and it has nothing to do with my medical problems. Right now I am facing a diagnosis of ALS, and that does not have me discouraged. This was my place of refuge for dealing with my illnesses, and everyone else is too busy pointing out how wrong they think anyone is to actually be supportive.

I am discouraged because I feel like I can gain no support from this group. Everyone is too busy telling me that I am wrong for taking medications and continuing to manage my health care with doctors, and needles, and pills.. even though I have tried all of the alternatives with nothing close to success. I get speeches on PT when I have said over and over again that PT did not work for me. I get speeches on going off all medications and doing things the "natural way" to "cure" my IC symptoms, even though the people saying these things have never experienced any of the problems I have or even asked me about what I have or haven't tried. When people aren't preaching to me they are sending me message talking about how they've been in remission for months or years, and then they decided to eat tomatoes. They want me to join in on a pity party. I can't do that. When you purposely and knowingly set yourself back over a piece of red fruit I have no sympathy for you. I know that is really harsh and not very nice, but when I struggle so hard on a minute-by-minute basis and I see others doing the same or worse.. I just can't feel sorry for you when you do something that you know is going to make yourself sick. And then those same people preach to me about what I'm doing wrong.

I just don't understand most of the people on here anymore. I see people telling others the craziest things. There were even comments about probiotics. My father is a Crohn's disease patient. He has had almost all of his intestine removed. He only has less than a foot of it left because it would atrophy. He either removed it or he died. Probiotics keep his body working. If he wasn't on them he would have more spots that would atrophy. He can die without them. I take probiotics one week out of every three months to regulate my digestive system. I have severe muscle spasms, muscle rigidity, and muscle pain. The probiotics help me to be able to have a working digestive system when my muscular problems would not.

I appreciate that everyone has there own opinion. Everyone is entitled to that, but just because you are.. it doesn't mean you should offer a general judgement. Get to know the person and their health problems before you start telling them what is good/bad or what they should/shouldn't do for themselves. And you can offer advice and support without preaching towards people. And when you read something you have a problem with.. do not attack the person.

We all come to this group for support. So why can't we support each other? There is something seriously wrong when I am more upset by how people are behaving on here than a diagnosis of ALS. I want to be able to come to this group and share that I have something horrifying going on. My loved ones are devastated, and I am devastated because I can't take their pain away.. not to mention the excruciating amount of pain that I am in. I need support for that. I need to talk about how my muscle issues are affecting my bladder disease. I need to talk about how I can barely hold myself together long enough to crawl out of the bed an into the bathroom. I need to talk about how I want to be a husband to my wife, but can't.

I don't think this is the place for me to be anymore, because I can't do any of that. All I get is judgmental, preachy, and ridiculous responses. And then everyone else gets angry from something someone has said to a person that isn't them.. they snap and the situation gets worse. I causes stress. None of us should have to deal with such petty and stressful situations in a support group. I need help. I need support. That doesn't seem to be the aim of this group anymore.
Posted on 10/27/09, 05:10 pm
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Reply #1 - 10/28/09  6:57am
" Hi,

I'm very sorry that you are so frustrated with this group. The truth is, I have noticed the same thing as you have. I have noticed that one or two people in particular seem to point out how wrong something is, especially when it works for you. I have stayed away from these people because this is a support group, not a group where someone needs to condone you on what is right or wrong for what you are doing or not doing. I don't believe I was one of the people who responded to your postings in the past but I am truly sorry that you do not feel support from this group. There are a couple of very strong opinions on here, a little too strong. I just lost a good friend on here because she felt the same exact way as you and I feel. She just left this site. She takes a med everyday, and someone was nasty enough to post about it and say that it's addictive to take it and that she shouldn't take it. I take pain killers everyday, just simply because that's how severe the pain has been. I don't care if someone says I'm a drug addict. Until I can find something that works, I don't care what anyone else thinks about it. I am here to offer my support. Yes, everyone is titled to their opinion but... sometimes, their opinions hurt and show me that I have to try what they say and it has to work. Basically, they feel that they are right and I'm wrong. I got rid of my pain management specialist for this reason. You are correct... we should get to know one another before jumping to conclusions. My name is Laura and I would like to continue to be there for you in the future. If you choose not be part of this site anymore, I don't blame you. Please let me know so we can keep in touch and I'd like to know how you are doing. Thank you for your posting, I hope that everyone will be able to read it and to see the mistakes that they are making. They think they are being supportive when actually they are being kind of mean and judgemental. "
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Reply #2 - 10/28/09  7:41am
" I am really sorry to hear about your health issues. My dad had ALS and in honesty, it's one of the most challenging diseases for the person, the loved ones, and even the medical community. I can not imagine having IC in addition to that. Life's hard enough even when we are well.
I have not been following this column much, mostly b/c I had been feling better for a while. However, your letter should serve as a reminder to us that we need to be more open-minded before freely administering advice. What works for one person surely may not work for another. And we all have chosen different paths to help deal with life's arrows.
I commend you for being honest and for helping the readers to remember the real pain that comes with IC and other ailments. Sometimes, that pain is not just in the bladder, but in the heart. I hope you are able to heal.
Yours,
WannaBWell "
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Reply #3 - 10/28/09  10:35am
" I agree with you completely. I joined this group to get support and see what has worked for others with IC. It seems that a few people have set themselves up as "experts" and continue to push their theories, or what they say has worked for them, on everyone else. I don't mind someone expressing their opinion about what they are doing but don't insist that I follow the same regimine and stop taking meds that my doctor has prescribed for me. Elmiron has changed my life. Prior to taking this medication I could barely walk without pain. Now, my life is normal again and I don't need someone telling me that I shouldn't be taking this medication.

I hope that this "support" group goes back to its origins. "
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Reply #4 - 10/28/09  11:56pm
" I totally agree with your postings. Thank you for being open and honest and I hope you ladies have a great day! "
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Reply #5 - 10/29/09  12:35am
" Hi, I, too, read your post and am sorry to read about all you are going through. I thought your post was very well written.

I have had IC for 20 yrs., and have tried a lot of different treatments during this time. I have learned that what works for one may not work for another. So I make my own decisions along with the trusted advice of my urologist whom I have seen for years.

When I first joined this support group, I thought it would be great to share information. I found that some people, in my opinion, were a little too one sided for my taste. Unfortunately, that's why I haven't posted much at this support group. I have too much to deal with (other chronic illnesses, too) to have to read that some people believe they have "the answer" to "everyone's" IC problems. There is no "one answer."

It is such a shame because I thought this was a place where we could come to receive support in dealing with this very difficult illness.

I wish you all the best. Take care.
Malena "
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Reply #6 - 10/29/09  10:43am
" Very well written!

Hugs!!! "
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Reply #7 - 11/02/09  9:16pm
" Everyone who responded to this post has some legitimate concerns about what is happening here ~ and what gives me hope is that you cared enough to say that this needs to be a place where we find support!! Yes!!

So I hope everyone who find this will make a post with updates that we can encourage!

And suggestions for how to feel better!
Everyone has to keep testing to find what works for themselves.

Please keep telling me what works for you - it just might work for someone else too!

Thanks so much to all. "
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Reply #8 - 11/04/09  8:45pm
" I have also noticed this. Especially with going off my medications... I have other pre-existing conditions too and would be putting my life in danger if I went off all of my meds. I'm really devastated to hear that you're leaving but also to think that this support group has become toxic and no longer helpful. I think that there's still time to turn it around. I haven't even been a member for a year (was diagnosed in Dec 08) but honestly I have learned SO much from everyone, especially you, on this site and I fear I would be lost had I not come upon it. I think that the supportive people outnumber the others so that gives me hope. Thank you for voicing this and to those who also responded. xo "

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