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I thought this was a good thing to share with my many 'friends' here who are in need of strength and self-respect. Hugs!
What is 180 and how does it work? 180 is a list of behaviors from Michelle Wiener Davis, the author of Divorce Busting, that will help your spouse to see you moving forward as a healthy person. I would highly suggest that any new betrayed person begin these behaviors as soon as possible. No one wants to be perceived as pathetic. 180 makes you look strong. Strong is attractive. So here's the list: Don't pursue reason, chase, beg, plead or implore. No frequent phone calls. Don't point out "good points" in marriage. Don't follow her/him around the house. Don't encourage or initiate discussion about the future. Don't ask for help from the family members of your WS. Don't ask for reassurances. Don't buy or give gifts. Don't schedule dates together. Don't keep saying, "I Love You!" Because if you have a brain in your head, he/she is at this particular moment, not very loveable. Do more than act as if you are moving on with your life; begin moving on with your life! Be cheerful, strong, outgoing and independent. Don't sit around waiting on your spouse - get busy, do things, go out with friends, enjoy old hobbies, find new ones! But stay busy! When home with your spouse, (if you usually start the conversation) be scarce or short on words. Don't push any issue? No matter how much you want to! If you're in the habit of asking your spouse his/her whereabouts, ASK NOTHING. Seem totally uninterested. Your partner needs to believe that you have awakened to the fact that they are serious concerning their assertions as to the future (or lack thee of) of your marriage. Thus, you are you are moving on with your life? without them! Don't be nasty, angry or even cold - Just pull yourself back. Don't always be so available for anything! Your spouse will notice. More important, he/she will notice that you're missing. No matter what you are feeling TODAY, only show your spouse happiness and contentment. Make yourself be someone they would want to be around. Not a moody, needy, pathetic individual but a self-assured individual secure in the knowledge that they have value. All questions about the marriage should be put on hold, until your spouse wants to talk about it (which may not be for quite a while). Initiate no such conversation! Do not allow yourself to lose your temper. No yelling, screaming or name calling EVER. No show of temper! Be cool, act cool; be in control of the only thing you can control? YOURSELF! Don't be overly enthusiastic. Do not argue when they tell you how they feel (it only makes their feelings stronger). In fact, refuse to argue at all! Be patient and learn to not only listen carefully to what your spouse is really saying to you? HEAR what it is that they are saying! Listen and then listen some more! Learn to back off, keep your mouth shut and walk away when you want to speak out, no matter what the provocation. No one ever got themselves into trouble by just not saying anything. Take care of you. Exercise, sleep, laugh & focus on all the other parts of your life that are not in turmoil. Be strong, confident and learn to speak softly. Know that if you can do this 180, your smallest CONSISTENT action will be noticed far more than any words you can say or write. Do not be openly desperate or needy even when you are hurting more than ever and are feeling totally desperate and needy. Do not focus on yourself when communicating with your spouse. It's not always about you! More to the point, at present they just don't care! Do not believe any of what you hear them say and less than 50% of what you see. Your spouse will speak in absolute negatives and do so in the most strident tones imaginable. Try to remember that they are also hurting and afraid. Try to remember that they know what they are doing is wrong and so they will say anything they can to justify their behavior. Do not give up no matter how dark it is or how bad you feel. It "ain't over till it's over!" Do not backslide from your hard earned changes. Remain consistent! It is the consistency of action and attitude that delivers the message. When expressing your dissatisfaction with the actions of the wayward party, never be judgmental, critical or express moral outrage. Always explain that your dissatisfaction is due to the pain that the acts being committed are causing you as a person. This is the kind of behavior that will cause you to be a much more attractive and mysterious individual. Further it SHOWS that you are NOT afraid to move on with your life. Still more important, it will burst their positive little bubble; the one in which they believe that they can always come back to you in case things don't work out with the OM/OW." Posted on 03/12/08, 01:43 pm |
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Treading... 180 that baby! If you start pulling away, he will see what he has in you isnt the short sited youngster crap he will get from a 22 year old. The 180 gets the H's thinking...."hmmm why isnt she being her old lovable self?" "Can she really go one without me?" "I used to love when she XXXXX!" I am telling you... shorten those converations. Change your patterns to brief , concise communications. Smile and remain cooooooooool....and then just watch what happens. After it gets his attention, then confront him so he knows that communication of any kind with the OW or any more is a deal breaker and then stick to your words. He has to know these internet girls will cost him his marriage. I agree with ImDealing on this. He is showing repeater behavior, so if you don't confront him soon, there maybe more ladies added to his roster.
I am a 180 believer!
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The 180 isn't going to help a situation where a cheater has been previously caught, and has restarted his cheating
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Thanks to you both. It means alot to be able to "talk" with people familiar with this. I know I want to have hope that it could work.....but it would at least give me a goal to act according to for my own sanity. I don't think the number of "ladies" really matters. If he goes there to meet with them, and they don't pan out, he'll just meet others. He is a very charismatic man and women always gravitate to him......of all ages. I can't compete with such young women attractiveness wise. I was hoping I could with my love and caring.......not active and exciting enough anymore I guess. (Not whining...just observing).
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I am just a little confuse here so please if someone can explain.... If I don't ask questions and just let him do whatever the hell he wants (come home late, text with OW all he wants) and if I am not home ...all those things, then he will be happy...it is like letting him leave his affair in peace..like having the cake and eat it too!
I remember that he used to love, love, love whenever i would go out with friends (he would encourage me to do so) so he could find more time to talk freely on the phone with OW... sometimes I would go for walks and when I got home he would be there all happy talking with OW on the phone. another question......now hat we are in counseling, is it ok then to ask for re-assurance? I feel very needy a times. thanks so much for your input
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Hi everyone,
Just need a hug. Tried 180 2 days, he opened up about alot of things yesterday...I was strong and listened to things good and bad. We agreed to try the "5 Love Languages" book. He had already read it on his own. A good day. Today I woke up angry and so sad that he still has to "finish off" his writing to his on line "friends". After telling me he had very disturbing dreams probaby meant to keep him from "doing the wrong thing"???? (wouldn't elaborate) I blew it. Asked if he was going to sign off that site as he had told me he would. He said yes. I asked (cardinal sin) what was taking him so long...he had said he would say good bye and close his membership. He said "maybe we should start over...pretend we're divorced and date sometime". He then drove away....probably to go to my son's house where he can be on the computer in private. I couldn't keep my mouth shut. I caused this. How do I deal with this....I can't stand what I've done after there was a "start" on the right path. Do I throw in the towel or try to keep going and count it as a weak moment.....if he gives me a chance to do so? Please advise asap.
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The 180 isn't about getting him back. It's about getting YOU back. If during those two days you felt empowered and more in control by doing the 180 then you continue to do this until it feels like you can let him in more. So yes, you go back to doing it.
He needs to go NO CONTACT. No good byes. No trying to get closure. IF he wants to fix this mess he has created then he can put no energy into these online "friends" anymore. Your marriage now gets his full attention. Make it clear if he can't go no contact, YOU WILL WITH HIM. sending you strength. You will get through this.
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Thank you stateofchaos. (It really is isn't it?)
I needed to be reminded of the focus being "me". Just so hard to see "me" without being connected to him. Guess that's what it's all about. Wanted to try so hard with the ulterior motive of having him see me as someone he wanted to keep. Didn't do that too well for him or me!! Can't see him giving them up at this point....I nailed the coffin shut on that one most likely. Wish I were much younger and had more energy to start off anew. I feel so tired and out of hope for anything. He probably is paying "lip service" to trying for "us" anyway. Have to find the strength to make this alright for me.
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Bump for alanjoy11
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For me, the 180 is simply going on with your own life. It's about "me", not him and that's the way you need to approach it. I was doing the 180 and I didn't even know it. I was just moving on, quickly. Reconciling was not a desire for me, it wasn't even in my head.
That said, you need to know..... He might not respond the way you hope. That has to be alright with you. You have nothing to lose if you're in a relationship that has deteriorated anyway. The worse thing that could happen, is you pull away from the negative situation you're in and start to rebuild your own life. The 180 isn't a game. You need to be seriously intent on moving forward with your life and be able to communicate that fact effectively. More importantly, be very clear in your own mind, what you want out of the situation. Good luck in your rebuilding OR moving on efforts.....
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What about asking about Our daughter. Daughter is with WW at our married friends house and safe so not too much concern there. I do want to know how she (d) is dooing, she is not quite 6yo.
Reading the 180 I wonder if my wife is trying it on me? I havent been Wayward, but uncomunicative due to anxiety and depression.
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Treading... 180 that baby! If you start pulling away, he will see what he has in you isnt the short sited youngster crap he will get from a 22 year old. The 180 gets the H's thinking...."hmmm why isnt she being her old lovable self?" "Can she really go one without me?" "I used to love when she XXXXX!" I am telling you... shorten those converations. Change your patterns to brief , concise communications. Smile and remain cooooooooool....and then just watch what happens. After it gets his attention, then confront him so he knows that

