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well, they're gone. as mike was putting on his sneaks, he said 'i dont think they get us. i dont think they get our house.'
NO SHIT SHERLOCK! they dont get anyone without kids & an SUV. i can hardly get out of the house, so i'm a real book fiend. when i start talking about my books, it really clears the room.

and it wouldnt matter, except i'm childless, and therefore very lonely on holidays. but i never felt i registered as a prescence no matter how many conversations i tried 2 start.
any of youn gals remember womens lib? when i was small, they insisted that childless women could have rich, full personal & social lives. i dont think the USA got that memo after all. i know 2 other childless women older than myself and they say they feel alone too. not only children grow up feeling different; adults can feel it too at any age.

i guess i'm talking to myselfLOL
i know how you feel, lorraine. it's frustrating to show up year after year at holidays and either get looked through or snapped at when you say 'how are you?'. after 20 years of feeling like a stranger, you may as well put your health first and go where you're wanted or at least acknowledged.
take care, secret pal 1

secret pal no. 1 is right. why keep going 2 a place where the wives make you feel like a loser because you never had a child or tied the knot? you have friends who are mothers, and they're quite comfortable interacting with childless women. these particular inlaws sound so childcentric; they couldnt think what to say to others. kinda sorry for them, they're missing out on great people.
secret pal no.2

thanks guys. i wish it didnt feel so lonely though. i feel like i'm getting more & more different from everyone as i get older. i worry sometimes. i couldnt bring this up in inlaw-land. they feel like strangers i never knew now.

and you know the irony of this thread 2night? its july 4th weekend. everyones busy and no ones around 2 read it. aint that a kick in the head as the ol man said

Hi, I almost hate to reply, you've got such a great conversation going with yourself, lol. I know exactly what you mean about inlaws that are aloof. I have brothers-in-laws (?) who are like this too. Only difference is, they are the ones without kids, I have two. Needless to say, we don't get together often at all, mainly because the one brother and sis in law are so snooty.

The one thing that you said that really stuck with me is that it helps to be very emotionally independent as we get older. I'm finding that is true in my life too. There has been a split in my very close family since my sister died four years ago. It has been very painful for me and I have had to detach quite a bit to survive.

Well, I could go on and on about this subject, lol. I just wanted you to know that there is someone out here that cares what is going on in your life and I wouldn't ignore you. I hope you have a better evening and a Happy 4th tomorrow. :0)

Hugs,
Sheri

i totally understand. i am in that same boat and no longer married; never had kids; just the furry kind.
my family always goes to the local town on the 3rd or a picnic and fireworks. we had not heard anything from my brother's family (he has the kids), so my mom is saying well maybe we shouldn't go because of your foot, blah blah blah. next thing i know brother has called and she is excited and cooking food, etc....nevermind if it was just ME. sheesh....i've learned to try and ignore it although it did used to hurt. wish all of us without those kids, etc. were closer to each other and could do our own thing together.

Awe hun.....I was having a good time reading your conversation.

I agree, the boards have been SLLOOOWW!

I'm not kidless. Though there are moments that I need to 'step outside'. I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I have two boys who are autistic. And I feel like I can't take them to too many places. They are either having meltdowns or they are so wound up that they are making others miserable. It's just not fair for me to put people through that all the time. Yet, I still drag them out. I have to socialize them. But I struggle with it. Especially on a pain / flare day.

But I feel as isolated as you are. Family just don't get it sometimes. My family is pretty good. But we avoid the hubsters family. For instance, tonight we were expected to drive 2hrs just to go out to dinner for an hour or 2 and then drive back home another 2 hours.
Even if I did find someone I trusted to watch our boys.....I could have never made that trip. Just for a birthday dinner...ugh!

I wish you a very happy 4th hun. We'll be in...so I'll be online more than likely.

i'm home all alone no hubby or boufriend or girl friend to pal w/ so all i can say is glad in a way that i didn't have to be insultee has you have in your own home by family!
sorry wish i was your sis =i love to read have over 2,0000 books on every subject!
i read several @ atime! eading a old gardening book kinda like a seasonal & monthly journel, wisdom, gardening workbook!
i love finding vintage books @ yard sales for .25
newer book 1998
GARDEN of the simple Pleasures
by Susannah Seton
Stories,recipes,& crafts from the Abundant life!
ea page ia like a journel of ones garden liken to our souls & ea page has a poem or words of wisdom!
pg13 spring Produce for a apt dweller,
in short tell how to garden w/ hanging basketsbut poem @ end is great=
To be beautiful and to be calm, without mental fear, is the ideal nature
---Richard jefferies
if you are a gardener or have a friend that is one this is a great gift she will love for life=i read over & over & always find something new i didn't reador comphend!
wishing you a peaceful holiday
again i'm by myself bu good thing i have no plan dog is so terrified of fire works
=she will become a lap dog tonite
all 56lbs rot/germen shepard=sl i'm not really alone & i have a cat that will be in my arms alll night to! so video & bed w/ animals w/covers over their heads= which they are normally not allowed!
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paula