What is Euthanasia

Euthanasia (from Greek: "good death") refers to assisted dying. The assistance ends the life of a person or an animal in a painless or minimally painful way. Euthanasia is most oft...

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Am I a murderer?
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Someone called me a murderer. She didn't realize it, but she did.

I 'pulled the plug' for my mother 4 years ago (just four months after my stepfather died). She spent 33 days in the hospital being mutilated by the doctors there. A routine surgery turned into my worst nightmare. As long as I live, I'll never forget the way her body looked. She was tortured.

I lost my job while Mom was in the hospital. My best friend of 20 years couldn't handle my constant bawling and ditched me soon after. I became a 'plague.'

Wondering every second of every day if the person you love most in the world is going to live or die, does something to you. Watching someone take their last breath changes you forever.

So I wandered around in a fog for 3 years. Crying and terrified the entire time. Who would be next?

I decided to go back to school. Someplace to hide. Someplace where there wouldn't be too many questions. Someplace where I didn't really have to interact with others too intimately. Someplace where no one knew me.

Then it happened. I was waiting for it I guess. A woman in one of my classes said to me, "I know what would have been a really good persuasive speech for this class...'pulling the plug'. I think it's wrong. It's murder! I mean, what if they could have lived even another day?"

It took all I had not to shriek like a banshee and smack her.

I never wanted to play God. I hated even squishing bugs, pro-lifer that I was. Now what am I? A murderer? A killer? What?

I don't have one single person to relate to about all of this. The contents of my head used to spill freely onto whomever was in my vicinity. Now my mouth is shut and my thoughts closely guarded. A lesson painfully learned there. Whenever I did try to talk about it, I'd get the you're-a-freak look, including my therapist. She seemed genuinely mystified that I was still crying 2 years after the fact. The general grief category for me is like putting a band aid on a freshly severed limb. Nice try, but a tad bit inadequate.

Anyone here know what I'm talking about?

(also.. ever hear of something called cardiac cirrhosis?)
Posted on 12/23/07, 05:12 pm
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Reply #1 - 01/10/08  9:57pm
" NO! You are not a murderer! Sometimes the best way to show someone how much you truly love them, is to let them go. My dad suffered so much with cancer. He did everything from chemo to radiation and surgery...nothing was going to help. All the pain and side effects of medication, procedures, etc. made my dad's life (if that's what you could call it) a living hell. But all we wanted was for him to fight and win. So he fought and suffered horribly. One day, just weeks before he died, he asked us to please let him go. No more drugs, radiation, chemo, just let him have his life back, and to leave it with some dignity. He insisted on a DNR order from the minute he found out he only had six months, but never told us. Didn't think we would agree. At the time, he was probably right. But now I see that he was the bravest of us all. I pray that my child will do for me what you did for your mother. I wish I could have done it for my dad, because that is what he would have wanted. "
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Reply #2 - 03/27/08  7:24am
" (((((hugs))))) "
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Reply #3 - 04/05/08  11:20am
" hi there...unfortunatelty in life there r some things we should not discuss with others...and...this is only because they make US feel worse. i wonder did this same person ever have an abortion or have an anilmal put down....no one can cast a stone and 4 someone 2 judge like that,,well they r not worth wasting time thinking about.
people will hurt u if u r honest with them cause u know how most of society veiws this.
i mean its terrible that we cannot discuss it openly and that u r made 2 feel like a freak...u r probably a very kind considerate thoughtful person
but i think ur right..b descrete who u tell in order 2 protect ur feelings "
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Reply #4 - 07/14/08  10:42am
" i live in australia where euthanasia is illegal i am also a nurse and think its wrong (now read this you start yelling at the computer) i think its wrong that we DONT have it here the painand the suffering i see in families is terible i have nursed people on there death bed on palitive care and its horrible you just wish for both them and there families it was over some people hang on for weeks and eventually starve to death cause there so weak they cant eat its horrible iam so FOR euthanasia and anyone who thinks otherwise should go work where i work in a palitive care hospital for a while it might change there minds "
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Reply #5 - 07/16/08  8:41pm
" no you are not a murderer... I would do the same thing if I was you! "
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Reply #6 - 11/01/08  11:02pm
" Cardiac cirrhosis is an extensive fibrotic reaction occurring within the liver as a result of prolonged congestive heart failure (CHF). Also called pseudocirrhosis or "false cirrhosis."
In other words, the heart was so congested with extra fluid and volume and couldn't be an effective pump, so it directly effected the function of liver.
Your precious mother must have been very ill and my heart goes out to you. I agree with all the sentiments of the other postings and I must also add my comments which come from over 35 years as a Hospice nurse. You allowed your Mother to die with her dignity intact; you gave her the most precious give you ever could: you set her free.
Now you need to set yourself free. You need to let go of the guilt and shame you say you feel and you need to embrace the freedom and peace that your mother is in.
If you need to cry 3 minutes or 30 years from now, it is no one's business but yours. If crying makes you feel better and lets you let go of negative feelings, cry me a river! Everyone handles grief in a different way at a different time.
Get a helium balloon and tie a note to your Mother on it and let it go!
And one of your friends responding is right in saying that time to talk about this with anyone but your therapist (or anyone else where confidentiality is upheld as an ethical and professional standard) does not need to take place.
Try to concentrate on the positive and the here and now. Her death is over; your life is going forward. Continue to make her proud with your school work and your education and whatever profession you choose. You're gonna be outstanding!!
Be an advocate for individuals to complete living will documents and assigning Durable Powers of Attorneys who can make medical decisions for them in the event that they cannot.
You should have had the authority to tell the doctors "NO!" and "STOP!" during your Mother's illness.
Make sure that you have a living will and appoint someone you trust that understands and supports your wants and desires to make your medical decisions in the event that you cannot make them.
This is so very important, as unpleasant as it is to talk about one's own death, or anybody else's death, for that matter.
Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross once said that "It is through the living that we learn how to die."
Live your life to the fullest, Peri, and don't look back. Your Mother is always with you, as is God, and they both want you to be happy and make an example of love and giving to others of your life.
You are in my prayers and my heart and I only wish I was there to give you a big hug. It is going to be all right. You are a child of God and He will always, always love you and will never, never leave you. Blessings to you, my sister! =^..^= "
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Reply #7 - 08/03/09  4:07am
" When you have always terrible pain , and a tortured body , what is life worth ?
when you can not think anymore because the pain is to much , what is life worth ?
When you can not see your loveones anymore because the pain is to much for you and them , what is life worth ?
When you can do nothing anymore , but only hoping for death , what is life worth ?
But when someone stops that pain forever for you than is life changed in heaven for you . And you will always thank that person for stopping your horrible suffering ! "
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Reply #8 - 09/12/09  9:05pm
" As my Dad lay dying in his hospital bed the Dr came and asked me if I would care to sign a DNR. I didn't even think about it. Give me a pen! He had lung cancer and congestive heart failure. The fluid was being collected in two containers at the foot of his bed. He was in obvious pain. He died minutes after I signed the order. Took a deep breath and that was it. I do think about it from time to time but I know it was the best thing to do. What, bring him back to suffer some more? For how long? Another day, a week? Nuts to that! "

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