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I do not know much about diabetes. My grandma is currently in the hospital in a coma. It is the 4th day. I wanted to explain what I know because I'm wondering if anyone has heard of this or knows of anyone who this has happened to. From what I've read, my grandma was in a Hyperosmolar Hyperglycemic State, previously termed hyperosmolar hyperglycemic nonketotic coma (HHNC).
My grandma has had uncontrolled diabetes for awhile. She is in her early 70s and was not property taking care of her diabetes (and not allowing anyone to do it for her). She did not eat properly and actually hardly ate at all. She also has bad neuropathy and was in severe pain much of the time. She has been bed ridden for years due to the pain. But she was able to use a wheelchair herself for short times. Wed morning my grandpa found her unconscious in the kitchen on the floor near her wheelchair. She was taken by ambulance to the local community hospital where she had a seizure. She was life flighted by helicopter to a trauma center where she had another seizure. Her blood sugar was over 1000. At first they thought she had a heart attack (at the first hospital) but I think they were more unsure of that later on. Her potassium was low. It was bad. They were able to get everything under control. Her heart rate, her blood sugar, everything became stable, however she has not woken up. From everything I've read about hyperglycemic comas, once the blood sugar levels are brought to normal, the patient wakes up. I've read about hypoglycemic comas (from LOW blood sugar) causing brain damage and long term comas, but I've been unable to find anything like that online about hyperglycemic comas causing the same. They did a CT scan at the first hospital to see if there was any stroke, or blood on the brain, or swelling or anything like that and everything looked good. At the trauma center they have drawn spinal fluid to look for infection and see if that could have gone to the brain but that came back good. They did an EEG yesterday to monitor brain waves and had it on her for 24 hrs. I have no idea how these work and the nurses were not allowed to say. But in the beginning (they sedated her at first for this) all the lines on the monitor were jumping up and down but only about 1/4 inch. Then she'd move a little and they'd all go crazy for a bit. But today, all the lines on the top of the screen were going up and down really high and low (indicating a lot of activity I presume). They downloaded the data and wanted to hook it up for another 24 hrs. But the one nurse said it wasn't flat, and she's seen some that were totally flat so I presume that since all the lines were moving, her brain is working. I dunno, I'm not a dr, so I'm just guessing here. They are still doing more and more tests trying to find out the cause, if it's some kind of infection or west nile virus (she's been bedridden like I said so that's highly unlikely). But she did have Shingles for about a month before this. It seems like she gets a bit responsive here and there but you have to be there at the right time. Today they told us her condition was the same but when we went to see her, she opened her eyes and turned her head and squeezed her hand, her eyes were moving back and forth, she moved her head from side to side, it looked like she tried to blink her eyes on command (although not completely), she shrugged her shoulders. But then she went back to sleep. Later, when other relatives saw her, she was not responsive at all. Basically, has anyone heard of someone going into a diabetic coma for high blood sugar and not waking up once the sugar was under control? I guess I'm just wondering if the diabetes could be the cause of the coma or if it's something else. It's strange to me that she'd have super high blood sugar AND another problem that can both cause a coma at the same time. Posted on 08/18/12, 06:22 pm |
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Hi there AgentSmith,
First of all, I am not a doctor either. I know that hyperglycemia can also cause a coma as well and with blood glucose over 1000 well it certainly seems possible that is what your grandma is going through. With some of what you describe, looking like she is partially waking up, well I know that in the cases of longer comas, that is kind of an indicator that the person is waking up. I am positive though that the doctors will keep both your grandpa and you informed as to what is happening. My mom has middle stage alzheimers and has had periods of non responsive behavior, it is very frightening but the 3 or 4 times that she has been through that, I will still go to see her and I will sit right beside her and hold her hand. They say that people in comas are able to feel and sense emotions from those around them. So, you keep doing that, it will let her know that there are people around her who care! Please make sure that you are keeping an eye on your grandpa too. A lot of times, the spouse of someone in a coma need someone there to talk to and I am sure that it will help! Also, PLEASE take care of yourself too! You are important too and remember that once your grandma gets out of the hospital, she is going to need you then as well. My heart goes out to you. Please let us know how things go okay and we are here to help! lary
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sending you many hugs for your family and for grandma. Once they get the diabetes back into control and address any other issues she should be coming out of the coma gradually...go sit and talk to her, they say people in comas can hear you.
my brother years ago went into a diabetic coma and he came out within a couple days.
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Thank you for the support. It looks like she is starting to respond to drs this morning. We are waiting to see her. She's having trouble breathing so they are putting the tube back in.
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AgentSmith, that is really great news! She will come around and I am positive that having you there will mean a lot to her. Things will start to look up as well. She is a very lucky lady to have you as a granddaughter!
Take care and BIG HUGS! lary
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Sorry for your grandmother's situation. I do not know of anyone who went into coma as a result of high bg. But have read how the uncontrolled high numbers can be detrimental to the body. In your grandmother's case, is she on medications which can cause comas with diabetes? A reading of 1000 can affect the brain which could induce a coma, brain function interference and associated complications. Another factor is the age, the body does not respond as it used to.
Sounds like she may be coming around and pray that she does. Hopefully a full recovery will take place and she begins to deal with diabetes.
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She started waking up yesterday and was responsive to Drs. So they attempted to remove the breathing tube to see how she'd do on her own. She was breathing but not quite good enough, so after an hour they put the tube back in. We went back yesterday afternoon after the sedatives wore off and she was the most responsive we've seen. She could nod and shake her head, shrug her shoulders, move her arms, squeeze our hands, etc. We're hoping today they will remove the tube.
She has encephalitis, swelling of the brain. We think this was caused by the Shingles she's had recently. I think a combination of that and the diabetes is what caused this. She will most likely have to go to a nursing home now which is what we want because we want her to be somewhere where she can get 24 hr care and they can see to it that she's taking care of her diabetes. But she has been adamant about not going to a nursing home so it will be a challenge. There's just no way she can get the care she needs at home. Thank you for all your responses and support. *hugs*
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Hi there AgentSmith,


