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My Stimpy.
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On Sunday, at around 1.30pm, I heard my neighbours shouting at something. I listened. I found they were shouting at my other neighbours.

'It had it by the throat!'

'It's just a cat!'

'Never mind it's just a cat.........it's not even ours. It's next doors!'

I raced downstairs and out the back to see what had happened. I didn't see it, but the Staffordshire Bull Terrier (similar to a Pitbull) had my eldest cat, Stimpy, by the throat.

This dog had been jumping into my garden time and again and had often chased our cats and next door's. On one occasion it even chased my other neighbour's cat into their house!

My reaction was purely in the heat of the moment. I told the dog owner that if it came in the garden again then it's had it. They replied in kind with regard my cat. One of his friends seemed to take exception and got in my face saying he'd cut my cat's head off if I did that. When I had calmed down he told me that my cat, as she stupidly does time and again, was in their garden to begin with. And that he'd just come home from football (soccer) practice and the dog raced out to greet him, saw my cat laying by a bush, then chased it round to my side. I've no idea how my cat couldn't outrun the thing.

Anyway, bizarrely, as we were trying to talk calmly, she trotted back round to the same spot in THEIR garden! It's as though she's purposely baiting the dog, as an act of defiance/authority. She then, after delayed mental reaction, ran off at speed into another garden.

The neighbour thinks, because the dog's in it's own garden, it needn't be to blame for this. I agreed. He doesn't want to put a muzzle on the dog, or even tie it up, because 'it should be allowed to run around'. That's all well and good, but it continues to get out and run amock in our garden.......though not as much as before. I could see from my neighbour's face and voice that he was distressed too.

The cat didn't come home until about midnight, after laying low. There was a blood stain round the throat, though it seemed superficial. She was growling and moaning a lot, through pain and trauma. I could see that her stomach was red and something appeared to be dangling. She wouldn't let me even touch her there because she got violent. I had to leave her in a box overnight, with some liquids. Well today, after hoping time would heal, she hasn't changed, so we took her to the PDSA (vets for poor people). She was terrified on the car journey and was panting by the time she was in the surgery. She'd also urinated herself in the box, which leaked onto me and the cab seat.

She's going to remain there overnight because they want to check her internal organs for damage, and also for broken ribs. There were three puncture marks where the dog mauled her. Dried blood.

Hopefully they will clean her up and she won't be too damaged (physically, anyway) and we can get her home.

The problem then is the neighbour. He says he will make sure he never gets in our garden again, though still refuses to tie the dog or muzzle it. As I said earlier, if my cat strays on their 'turf' then it's her own fault. But if that dog attacks from his side I don't know what to do, because I know this guy will just apologize again and again. The vet told me if it keeps getting in then by law it should be muzzled, or the owner risks a fine. I plan on telling him this, though without proof I know he will deny it.

This will one day end up with a dead cat, with the belief that a dog has more rights due to it's greater 'value'. 'It's what dogs do.'

Hope Stimpy comes home tomorrow, gets better and stays well.

If anyone else has had similar situations can you advise me on how best to resolve it?
Posted on 06/30/09, 12:06 pm
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Reply #1 - 06/30/09  1:04pm
" I think I would be to scared to let the cat outside again "
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Reply #2 - 06/30/09  1:07pm
" First off, Id makes sure that there is no way for the dog to get in the garden. Maybe change the fencing to something stonger. You could get stuff called 'chew off' from a pet shop but mix it with chillis and tobasco sauce, that should stop him making his own routes into the garden.
If his dog keeps escaping then its a sign of boredom, he probably needs more exercise. If you suspect this to be the case, report the owners. Staffs can be lovely dogs, provided they are well exercised and treated with love. If you doubt the care, then reporting is the only way to go.
As for your cat, unless you can make Stimpy into an indoor cat then she will continue to bait the dog, cats seem to find it amusing.
The cat probably thought she had done enough to escape, regardless of what you think of cats, they are massively arrogant animals. "
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Reply #3 - 06/30/09  1:07pm
" Oh honey, I am so sorry you and Stimpy had to go through that.

My question would be what are the leash laws regarding dogs? Here if they aren't in a fenced-in area they must be leashed.

Secondly, what if it had been a 4 y/o child that dog had by the neck while it was allowed to go into other gardens? Bull terriers have physiological traits that cause their bite to be larger and their jaws to 'lock on' once they bite. Regardless of the dog's training, etc, their bite is just physiologically more deadly.

I would report the incident to the Animal control authorities. I know you don't want ill will with your neighbor, but a dog like that is too dangerous to be allowed to run around the neighborhood. "
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Reply #4 - 06/30/09  1:09pm
" Tell the neighbor that if the dog ends up killing the cat, chances are good that the dog will be put down as being vicious. That is what happens here in the states most of the time. A dog that violently and persistently attacks other animals or a person is considered dangerous and is put down.
I had a bunch of dogs at one point and had to take one to the pound after rescuing her, because she violently attacked my other dogs for no reason. The pound told me that dogs like that are considered dangerous and must be put down, as they escalate in the behavior and can end up attacking people. I agreed with that totally.
I would look into finding an arbitrator in the matter, a disinterested third party to moderate the discussions! People get awful protective and huffy over pets! I know I do on occasion! "
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Reply #5 - 06/30/09  1:12pm
" Oh....poor Stimpy.....I hope she recovers well and will be home tomorrow.

It is a difficult one chick......but having been a dog owner long before I owned cats......I wouldnt have let my dog out on its own without a leash. yes, into my garden...and yes she did chase cats, although she NEVER caught them. If she did, I would have been mortified for the cat owners. As you say, cats are usually too fast and go through holes in hedges, or climb up to get away etc. But....cats do as cats do...and that involves them prowling "Their" territory....Im not sure you could actually prevent this at all.....I am hoping Stimpy gets wiser....and avoids that garden?

Im sorry I cant give you any real advise about this as it has never happened to me.......but here's hoping Stimpy recovers well.

Hugs chick
xx "
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Reply #6 - 06/30/09  1:17pm
" There's probably a law that says their dog can't go out without a lease. There's probably another law that says they are responsible. Have them keep their dog in line or get the cops on them.

Seriously. "
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Reply #7 - 06/30/09  2:14pm
" I think it said a lot about the guy who threatened to chop your cats head off. Wow. I got a little confused with who was who was I'm tired but if that was happening to my cat I'd still be furious, though we used to have proper fencing so it wasn't a problem. I really can't say I'd let my cat outside if that was happening "
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Reply #8 - 06/30/09  2:15pm
" A friend of mine told me about a dog next door who used to bark too much. He took a BB gun, and shot it from his bathroom window and it stopped barking.

What he did next I thought was genius. Every time he had to stop the dog from barking with the B B gun, he would cough first, then shoot. Today, all he has to do is cough, and the dog stops barking.

This idea will not help at night when you are in bed, or during the day when you are gone. But I wonder if watching and nailing that dog every once in a while will give it a clear message? What about and electrcic fence? "
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Reply #9 - 06/30/09  2:20pm
" Sadly, when violence it meted out to a dog, they are more likely to become violent. Whilst the BB gun method may have stopped the dog barking, it could have turned it into a distrustful hound, meaning its more likely to attack an innocent. "
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Reply #10 - 06/30/09  2:22pm
" Very true, Baz, very true ......... "

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