What is Crohns Disease Ulcerative Colitis

Crohn's disease is a systemic inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) of unknown cause, that results in chronic inflammation of the intestinal tract. It can affect the entire gastrointest...

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Okay, Ive been getting lots of emails about this, people are asking me for advice.. what to do, how to start the raw diet, to begin, what to eat, etc. etc.

You cannot rush into this, you cannot start drinking heavy green detoxifyngs juiices. If your going to drink juice, DRink CARROT juice,
Some people can tolerate celery, it is also great mixed with carrot, but for me I cannot when I am in a flare..
Celery has a lot of needed nutrients for your digestion, as well as salts needed for your body..

Carrot is GREAT for cleansing and soothing your colon/intestines especially when they are raw and irritated..

So this is my common reply to a person who is wondering how to go about starting this diet and transition to heal there flare.
When your in a flair you need to not worry about eating,
You need to rest ,your body is trying to heal itself and cleanitself you..

When Im in flares, I stilck to like 3 or 4 foods

I drink ALOT of coconut water, prefereablly young thai coconuts.
And Lots of water in general.

Forget about gaining or loosing weight just REST REST REST,
if you can handle bananas, eat bananas,
mangos may be a little rough cus they are high detoxifing, losta fibers.. but if they sit well eat mangos too, Lots of papaya, or papaya nectar. try to get as fresh and as ripe as possible.
Eat bananas with lots of spots, so they are easier to digest..

breakfast lunch and dinner if you want, eat one or two of those at each meal, eat enough to fill up.. If you want to, for dinner eat some steamed sweet potatoe, or some yams, or carrots.

If can handle it to, pleanty of carrot juice is great.
basically you need to let your bowels rest and clean, it takes time, lots of patience and dedication to the diet.. but you cant rush it, its taken a long time for us to get sick, now you need to give it time to catch up with itself..

So try eating as little as you can, if you do decide to eat cooked and regular food, avoid ALL DAIRY, all meat, all fats, all grains, ESPECIALLY WHEAT products, gluten, rye, flour, sugar, yeast.. All these things are hard to digest especially forus.. If you do take the prednisone, do whatI suggets, and youll have the best results.. thats what i did, and all my inflammation and bleeding stopped and I have normal blood tests, not lacking in anything and all my anemia is gone too..
GOOGLE paul nison, and david klein, healing crohns and colitis with raw foods.

Check out www.rawfoodsupport.com Ask them, there are a bunch of people there like us who have healed and been in remission for YEARS AND YEARS, paul nison started like us, and nots its been 30+ years hes been in remission, after time your going to be able to eat salads and more tastey meals, but for now we just need to rest..

play write back with questions and let me know your progress I will try to help a much as I can..


So to round this up..

Pick a couple SOFT none acidic fruits.

I choose, Banana, Mango, and Papaya, or cherimoyas..

Coconut water (as fresh as you can! from the husk/young thai coconuts)
coconuts have been used for thousands of years to heal, even put thru IV, there extremely close to our own blood plasma, and has all the enzymes, nutrients etc. our bodies need! so if your going to fast wich is also GREAT for our condition, think about a coconut water fast its not as dangerous, and you wont mess up your electolytes!
Ive gone weeks with just coconut water, and SO MUCH energy and felt just normal and great..

Carrot juice, fresh! dont worry about greens yet, they are irritating cus of the fibers to a raw and sensitive colon..

Eat small meals, PREFERABLY with only ONE OR TWO combos,
so papaya, and banana is great.
Or mango and papaya, but we need to let our bodies rest to cntinue healing..

For dinner, if you wish you are safe to eat steamed carrots, steamed zuccinu (skinless), steamed sweet potatoe or yams etc. SOFT foods =]

Dont over eat.. and google proper food combining!

AVOID dairy, fats, grains, gluten, rye, Flour, sugar, meats,heavy greens, you dont need those right now.. they will only further irriate our sensitive and raw intestines.. Let your body REST.
Posted on 05/14/09, 04:05 pm
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Reply #11 - 05/16/09  6:18pm
" DFUC,

How can you claim to be open and honest and just say "screw it" to things you know nothing about? "
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Reply #12 - 05/16/09  6:44pm
" AFter seeing so many posts about this diet Ive read quite a bit of it thru google,

Obviously it hasnt been working for you lately either hmm?

She advoated dairy, meat, but doesnt advocate mildy starchy vegetables becuase she things they are "tubers"?
When the benefits of some these "tubers" are very large especially with people with compromised digestive systems?
This diet may be good for a short period, avoiding mostly processed foods, but including all these spices (wich are all very irritating, And stimulating to the digestive system, a sensitive and raw colon,) is not somthing anyone with UC or CD should advocate to help people heal..

Also, advocating the use of Acidic, hard to digest, stimulating, agressive complex proteins like meat, heavy foods like cooked eggs and cheese CERTAINLY is not a good choice for long term results.. Most people dont get there own dairy from there home cows, they buy them, pasturized, and processed, posioned / modified.
ITs damn common sense, Not only that.. but she knows Nothing about combining foods properly to Ease digestion, yet she advocates meals on her web site where you will build up putrification and create as Ive stated, an acidic enviornment that will eventually toxify the colon after a short period of possibly having a chance to clean the system. Her diet may work good with medications, but obviously it didnt do much for you after a 6 or 7 years. Ive read other forums and seen other posts where its been the same results after time.

As I said, listen to your body, if its right for you follow it. But I dont think that becuase she puts a sweet potatoe on an illegal list, that it should be avoided, especially when they person says its okay to cook and change the prrotein identity of an egg, or dairy base wich is MUCH harder and more complex to break down in our Already fragile digestive systems..

That i why I claim to be open and honest and say Screw that diet.
But sure, keep doing it, you know, be skeptical of me, just becuase Im 20 and I dont have a degree, or dont have a daughter who has UC, or Im not making a shit load of money of a book. Ive compiled a lot of experience, spoken with pleanty of people, on medications, without medications, I am just as much as a scientist as any of these people righting books. I mean this other guy has a website on google advocating the cure is 100% BEEF and VERY little vegetables! Give me a fucking break man!
Just becuase he follows the bible and has gone t college, doesnt mean SHIT to me.

There no different then my doctor, to me, but as I said, by all means. Listen and follow the list have fun. "
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Reply #13 - 05/16/09  6:55pm
" Oh yea, she advocated cooking fruit?
Killing all the nutrients, and enzymes in a fruit, whats left then?

I mean, just so damn fucking obvious to me. I dont see why people choose to battle it.
Do you see any other animal cooking there fruits or vegetables?
Or meat for that matter?

And how many disease do these animals die from? COMPARED TO HUMANS, I understand all living organisms have there own group of contaminants, diseases, and carcinogens, but compared to people, they are Very minimal.

But ofcourse, continue to argue and fight it. Im wrong, like usual. Peopleare meant to destroy the living enzyme and nutrients in there food. Humans are meant to cook a steak and fry potatoes, or beans and rice. It doesnt matter really, were Evolved, were no longer animals, were now superior beings who can digest anything, THats why were dieing from a digestive disease, an the doctors told us our condition is becuase our Immune system is confused, they dont know why, and they dont know how to fix it, but they can give us all sorts of medications, that we die from side effects.
Oh, and at the same time, were crazy for thinking eating food from a tree or the soil is natural. Becuase were evolved you see.

Cool. Makes sense. "
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Reply #14 - 05/16/09  7:10pm
" Her daughter has been UC free for over 20 years.

I was healthy for over seven years on this diet. I'm actually doing pretty good now.

I''ve done quite a bit of research on diets myself, approximately 20 years of it. However, I'm not a zealous,dogmatic, evangelist of the CSD, or any diet for that matter. I'm way to educated and informed to fall into that trap. For example, when I Google something like "Raw Foods" or "CBD diet" I also search for "Raw Food Myths" and "CBD myths." I can argue either side.

Reading Google excerpts is not a intelligent way to accurately access anything. You really have to read the book. Cherry picking info off of the net is no way to develop an unbiased, honest and critical analysis of any topic.

A lot of what you think you know, the so called "facts" you put out there for people to read, have been clinically debunked time and time again. Regardless, and I've said this many times before, so what if the research disproves something. If it is working for you, go for it. Most of the "scientific" descriptions of the things we think we know change over time as we learn more. The descriptions of why something work may or may not be accurate, they don't have any influence over something working. They only reflect our understanding.

I've seen the reasons why aspirin works change about a half dozen times. How many times will the very primitive science of nutrition rewrite its "facts?" A shitload. "
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Reply #15 - 05/16/09  7:20pm
" Just as her daughet may be 20 years symptom free, my friend has been 25+years symptom free, another has been 30+ all from the diet I am advocating,

So stop taking my opinions, experiences and advice up your ass and let people listen and chooes from WHAT THEY WANT, they have heard that side, so why is it wrong they hear my side and experience?

Oh, because your in your 40s, and you need to the attention right?

SEriously, as I said, if people want me off this forum. GREAT no problem, Ill be gone instantly. Im not trying to ruin Anyones life. Im just sharing my experience, what I find to be factual, EVERYTHING HAS ANOTHER SIDE TO IT, Everything, every damn story ha an opposing view point, no matter what! its all about experience, and opinion! ad I never said anything about perfection with my approach, however I do believe it will help and provide satisfaction towards a more perfect and holistic approach then eating burritos and cooked oils all day. Thats MY EXPERIENCE and MY OPINION, so be it!

I spend lots of time at the local library reading medical books, my grammar may not be up to date, I type quite fast, no excuse I just have poor grammar, but I am a pretty damn intelligent 20 year old , and I determined in helping myself, and I would never want to cause harm to anyone with ideas or opinions unless I truely experienced and saw them first hand!

I cherry picked from her website, I also ready a couple different interviews from google, there is nothing wrong with google...
As I said, biblelife.org or some website on google advocates an all beef approach! I read that, I looked at it at there point of view, I then looked up facts on beef and the effect on the digestive system, so I dont believe it. Meat presents a certain acid wich inflammation profits from, so does eggs, (I know omega 6 is one too), so, no I am not the one way educated, who stands in my own ego and triumph as you may believe! I do care, and I am learning a lot. I may have had this for 3 years, but, thats long enough to see suffering like I have..

You want me gone, Ill say it over and over, just tell me! I would rather let you guys deal with this in peace then deal with another crazy fuckhead like myself who just cares about people alittle to much. uhg.

I "
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Reply #16 - 05/16/09  8:21pm
" ***No one has to leave this forum, but lets strive for less profanity and more constructive discussion.***

I think the more input we have, the better discussions we can have. This forum is about helping each other figure out what works... not getting in an argument.

It goes without saying that I'm going to take everything I read on the internet... and on this forum with a bit of skepticism. No one really knows a definitive answer on what will cure all our individual health problems, otherwise we would all know of it. "
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Reply #17 - 05/17/09  6:44am
" dfuc, don't leave. I admire your passion for sharing what works for you.

Try to remember though that what works for one person won't work for another. I tried ultra hard to eat "good" food after my Crohn's left me fighting for my life last year, and kept on losing weight and getting sicker.

When my Gi told me my Crohn's is one of the most severe cases possible, and is extremely difficult to treat, I said f*** it I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. I started eating potato chips, pizzas and french fries.

Within weeks I was putting on weight, passing solid BMs and generally felt great. A coincidence no doubt, in that it probably just coincided with remission occurring. But it's definitely the case that I'm healthier now. IBD is a crazy disease. "
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Reply #18 - 05/19/09  9:59pm
" Sigh Ive ben so depressed and mentally drained yesterday...
I have two cans of worms, my condition and constantly concerning myself with what I eat and if Im eating right and hoping nothing goes wrong, on top of that the medicine,
and then the pain killers. I mean without them, I wouldnt be able to get thru my day becuase of the spasms and abdominal pains, but them now my body is dependent on them, and Im addicted. And uhg. Why is life so damn compicated.. I just wish I could be normal.
Oh, and on top of that, I hav a girlfriend now, but it seems my trust issues from past relations are getting in the way, I havent been in a relationship in like 3 or 4 years, and she really likes me. but I cant help but feel like I am ruining it cus Im so stoked on having her, that I think I come off as needy or into her, giving her to much attention, and putting her in place where she feels I dont trust her etc.

So its like on ething afte ranother.

I just wana scream and run into the woods or somthing.
I find myself screaming so loud when I take showers and no one is home. Just becuase I wana be normal.. ya know?
grrrr. "
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Reply #19 - 05/20/09  2:31pm
" I really think that it is beneficial that everyone shares thier opinions and diets. I have yet to find a diet that fits my lifestyle and Im guessing Im just going to have to change my life to accommodate my UC. It totally sucks and I feel like nothing is working. My doc suggested a prednisone until I heal but i really dont want to start taking it. Im 20 yrs old and I just graduated from nursing school. I have some knowledge of prednisone and other various treatments but Im just a big baby about the meds and procedures.

DFUC- I really understand what you are going through. Im also 20 and I just want to be normal. I just moved in with my boyfriend and Im having a flare up and its so embarressing. Good luck everyone. "
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Reply #20 - 05/22/09  9:14pm
" Thank you so much for sharing this. What an answer to prayer. I was reading some info in a book a friend gave me. It suggests that you juice your veggies and in time some fruits. It has helped to put many CD patients into a remission for many years. I was a litte concerned to do this since my doctor didn't think it was a good idea. He said that it could make the flare worse. But, since I haven notthing to lose and everything to gain I am definately going to try it. The Humira and pentassa aren't working that great. Wow, this would be so much better than having to take medicines with all their side effets. Thanks again. Will share with all how it works for me.
Dolores "

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