Chronic Pain Support Group

that is appalling and truely illegal, did you sign a consent for him to pull your pharmacy records? He had no business to do that also how dare your pharmacy give out your private info. that is what the privacy act laws are for!!! I too suffer from great pain and take pain meds. also just got the scs implant to help with nerve pain. So no you are trying to function that is why you need your meds so you can try to run a househole etc. I too homeschool kids. I would have a serious talk with him and let him know he had no right to do this and how dare him pass judgement on you he should put himself in you painful shoes maybe then he would not be so quick to judge. You let him know that if he does not back off you can sue him for breaking the privacy act laws. If you do not want to be in pain and take your meds, DO NOT go to the lady he is trying to send you too. All he is trying to do is label you an addict. And this is a dr who is friends with your family? How horrific. Can you got to a different dr? I know you are having surgery soon, but is he the one you want cutting on you? also will he give out your records to people he has no business giving them too; This whole thing is horrible!! I would truely give this idiot a piece of my mind. and find a new dr. quick. this is just my opinion on it. good luck.

Thank you so much for your understanding. It is so horrible. I already have so much to deal with and now this. This doctor has made me feel like giving up. I am tired of the fight.
I would like to know more about the laws regarding him going into my pharmacy records like he did. Does anyone know if what he did is legal or illegal? I wouldnt press charges if it was illegal. But I am really backed into a corner. I feel that if i dont go to counseling with this woman he told me to go to, then he will tell my entire family about my meds that i take. The family will freak out because my sister was a real drug addict and she died 3 years ago from methadone and cocaine overdose- I have never ever taken anything like that- but they think all pain meds are bad now and I just dont want to watch my mom cry thinking that I am like my sister or something- I am NOT. I stay home and homeschool my kids. I am just a housewife- not a druggie.. So I feel stuck. And i feel like that doctor is watching me. I am supposed to get my pain med filled today and I am scared to death that he will know and tell the world. He is a rich asshole who has never been sick in his life and he has no clue how it feels to be stuck in a body that betrays you and tortures you day after day. I am really sinking fast. Oh and to make matters even worse- I have woken up the last 2 mornings with an unexplained fever- now i dont know who to go see about it cuz i refuse to go back to him. I am so terrified about my health issuues-I have 3 children whom I absolutely adore and I dont wanna leave them. Why should that asshole doctor add this additional stress to my already painful life? I just dont understand anything anymore. If it wasnt for my kids I would have no reason to keep going. They are my everything. Thanks again for listening and understanding- I really need all the input I can get please. Thank you,

This is very RECKLESS behavior from these PM Docs. I am going thru something very similar to what you are going thru. I live alone, no family here and it's up to ME to function in the life of pain and depression. Like you I depend on my meds to get the very minimal basics done for myself. AGAIN, the reckless behavior on the part of these soul LESS IDIOTS. It happens more times than we could even imagine. I have to disagree with Koil tho on a couple things. First I am fairly certain that your treating Doc has every right to see your pharmacy records. I would think that you had to sign many "release" forms allowing this. Second, I would say that you should meet with the " lady at the substance abuse// addiction ladey. Talk to her the way you have explained here about your condition. She should be able to report that there is a HUGE, BIG difference between being ADDICTED to these medications and having to RELY on them to have ANY QUALITY of life. I fyou don't do this then you risk further assumption that you are trying to hide something. Hold your head up high and stay determined that SOMEONE will hear you. If you read my profile you will see that the extreme LOSS I have experienced the last 3 years. DEPRESSION SO deep and DARK its beyond !!! And this FREAK Doc. that has treated me in the manner if the last 3 weeks.... well all I can say is HE NEEDS TO CHECK HIMSELF !!!!!!!!! Please let us know how you are doing.. Hugs, Deb

Thank you for your help and support. You have made me feel like I am not alone in this type of situation and you have encouraged me to face it. And I will. I am having surgery this upcoming Monday, but when that is over and I am healed up, then I will go meet with the lady and I may actually go to his office too and have a talk with him. I just have so many health issues right now-this is the last thing I thought would happen to me and I wish I did not have to deal with it. If anyone else has advice or thoughts I welcome them. Thank you.

Unfortunately, I'm not 100% positive, but b/4 I had to quit working and go on disability in 2006 I always worked in Dr offices. I dont think what he did was illegal. Do you have prescription ins? If you do, it may have been your ins co that sent him your prescription records. They watch what meds you get and if they see you get pain meds ( or any duplicate meds) from more than one Dr they will send both Drs copies of your prescription records. Thats legal to the best of my knowledge, then once they have that, they can share your info with the pharmacy and your other Drs because there are lots of loopholes in HIPPA and they can consider it Dr shopping whether it is or not. It really sucks. The only thing I could suggest is to get pain meds from only one Dr, and go to the same pharmacy to get them filled. If you pay cash, it might help but if they find out you have rx ins and don't use it, its a red flag. Some pharmacies can see where you got your last rx filled at. They do all this to try to catch the addicts but it only ends up hurting the people that truly need them. Again, I can't swear that its legal, but to the best that I remember, if the ins sees pain med rxs from more than one Dr that opens it up for the rest. I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hope the info is helpful. Hugs, Bonnie

Ok, first of all, I think that your PCP crossed the line when he did what he did with the pharmacy records, maybe is not illegal, but I see it as unethical. Number two, if this man knows that you have MS, and he is a true medical professional, he should know the kind of pain that you are in right now and always, and should NOT be treating you like a drug addict!
Number 3, go into the internet and print the " The Intractable Pain Patient's Handbook For Survival" by Dr. Forrest Tennant a very respected pain management Doctor in the nation. Take the copy and throw it at your PCP's desk and tell him to read it and to learn a little bit about chronic and intractable pain before he starts judging you and calling you an addict!

Honey, your case breaks my heart and it is soooo unfair in so many ways. Do not allow this PCP to do this to you. If he keeps on "harrasing" you, file a complaint against him with your local health department. Two can play that game, right? You have rights as a patient, and he has violated them, I know that you are in pain and probably not in the mood for fighting this, but if you don't do it, who else will? God bless and keep us posted.

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http://earthclinic.com/ click around.....I have chronic pain myself, Now I use 0 med's. for 6 years now. and I don't kill people daily anymore...just joking..lol. But you that live with this..know what I mean. I still have regular pains, but its rarely severe and that is the greatest relief. . I'm not where I cant even type like I was on the med's. I couldn't get out of bed for days-weeks sometimes then. 1 day or partial day up, then 2 to 3 days down to let the swelling go down. I'm no doctor but here's the story...in 2000-car accident, I was paralyzed waist down for 2 years, in bed, spinal injuries. I had to pay myself for an experimental surgery just to walk. I had insurance, full coverage, paid all of my life. but the surgery was listed as 'experimental' so they wouldn't allow me to walk. now I walk the beach daily. I've been researching since 2002..7 years now. restoring the nerves for my leg controls also turned on the pain. That's when all this started for me. I asked and researched about deadening the pain senders, to stop the swelling, but it is illegal to do it in the USA, since I could possibly cut my leg off with a chainsaw some day. A risk I would gladly take. Make your own decisions and hopefully stop being an 'experiment' at the cost of your spouse, your family life, your home, and your children's future. it took me $750,000 everything I had, and I was still the same, but in addition...mentally suicidal and crazed....to find that there ''are'' cures, simple ones. so inexpensive that 'that' will make you sick. They are just made illegal to use, or poisoned by ''somebody'' to prevent our use. Palm oil, hydrogen peroxide, baking soda, cider vinegar, garlic, honey, licorice.......check it out is all I can say before the Gestapo come and make me disappear. I have permanent damages that limit slightly my full success, but arthritis, cancers, tumors, flu's...even bird flu. you can find the cures and prevention in these items. arthritis... unbelievably 100% with pure cold pressed raw palm oil. NOTE.. all have to come from out of the USA. from 3rd-4th world countries or it is mixed with??? and made not to work.... not sure who would do such an evil thing?? but importing unstamped items is illegal. guess what the stamped for import ones are like....hmmmm. write me for more info if you need. nothing for sale or promotion here. I just care about people...people that are ''supposed'' to have a choice, and people that pay all their lives...just to remain ill and have generations of life savings and accomplishments stolen. By the way, I also look 15 years younger than I am, right now, and have the sex drive of a 20 year old....(ask my woman!!) After being told I would never get to do ''it'' ever again in my life. I would never ''rise'' to the occasion....glad they were wrong there too...especially!!!
There also...is one illegal drug that makes me 100% of the man I was...go figure!! It kills ALL the pain and not my brain. You don't want to hear that story...you'll be on the ''MIA'' list too. like I will be now. lets just say....it makes Michael Moore and Sicko look like a fairy tale....

Nokaoi,
Great story....................... not the appropiate story for this poster. Go sell your snake oil somewhere else!! I can't believe that you have the cojones to post that type of story when all Blindtiger needs is support, not someone like you calling her a "chemical experiment" or a "drug addict'!!! Get the heck out of here with your little snake oil business. As an ARNP I am insulted that you think that her MS can be cured with "baking soda, licorice and garlic", what a freaking joke! Go away, we don't need your products, thank you!

Go TIPPER,I could have not said it better myself, when I first read this I was not feeling well enough to respond to the BS !! THIS poster noki NUT JOB needs to go away !! I think they should go volunteer their services somewhere else. This will not be responded to anymore by me. SNAKE OIL, I love it !!!!!!!! Hugs, Deb

I am a recovering drug addict, and a nurse. I see that you had the chance to tell him that you alread had pin meds, but yet you still took another RX. You enev said something about it, which says to me you did feel something was not riht about your doing so.
Someone was saying that pharmacy flag certain meds that they see going through, they do!!!
Narcotics areone of them. It is not ilegal to do what the doctor did, he has to to keep from being sued if a patient overdoses. I know your in pain, that does not mean that one can't become addicted to these meds!!!
We are dependent on them that's for sure, and my goodness I would not be able to make it through my day without them.

I know that for me if I am keepin secrets then there is a problem. I don't need to not tell a doctor what I am on. All my doctors know what I am taking. I am honest with all of them. They have to know what your aking so thaat if they do order you something else
it won't By your not being honest with him, and taking the othr pain RX, it not only put him a in position of over medicating you, an that coukd get him in big trouble, but also
the question is why would you need more pain pills if you already have some. Why do you not tell the other doctor that you go to other as well.

That is wht I used to do when I was using my pain pills other than just for my pain, I loved what they did for me, and how theymade me feel. I could get so much done in a day.

Pain medication is to allow us to not be in pain, it's not so we can live our old lives just like they were prior to all this happening to us. They are not, as the song goes"Mother's Little Helper"

All my best to you, I would sy that you should see that lady, if you don't have a problem then it won't matter. Peole who fight it are the ones who do.

Love,
Debbie
Nurse, Drug Alcohol Counselor