What is Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME), post-viral fatigue syndrome (PVFS) and various other names, is a syndrome (or group of syndromes) of u...

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The single biggest factor determining recovery and remission from Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (M.E.) at this point is undoubtedly appropriate rest in the early and/or severe stages of the illness. The importance of avoiding overexertion in M.E. can not be overestimated.

M.E. patients that are newly diagnosed, or still in the acute stages especially must be given their best possible chance for recovery and be enabled to REST appropriately. Improvements in symptoms and stability of the illness can also be positively affected at every stage of the illness by appropriate activity management/reduction. Limiting activity levels to only as much as the patient is capable of dealing with may well be the single most important factor in the patient’s M.E. improving over time.

It is vital that patients avoid physical over-exertion and are never encouraged to exercise (or be active) beyond their individual limits particularly in the early and acute stages of the illness, but also at any stage of the illness. There is nothing to ever be gained by people with M.E. pushing themselves beyond their limits physically as this can only cause unnecessary relapses. Permanent damage (eg. to the heart) and disease progression may also be caused and there have also been reports of sudden deaths in M.E. patients following exercise.

Avoiding overexertion doesn't guarantee a quick (partial) recovery or any recovery at all, there are other factors at work too, but overexertion is a sure way to ensure that the patient remains more severely ill and for longer than would otherwise have been the case. For those with M.E., resting as much as is needed is not just 'doing nothing' - it is an active and vital disease management process.



What is meant exactly by the term 'resting?'

Resting means completely different things at different severity levels of illness. For the mildly ill resting may mean watching TV or perhaps sitting in a chair reading a book or having a quiet night in with friends. For the severely ill, these activities are not at all restful and indeed would provoke severe relapses.

For the very severely ill, resting means lying down in a dark room, in silence and with no sensory input at all (such as TV or radio or light) and not moving at all physically or engaging in any type of cognitive activity. Clothing must also be comfortable and the room must be neither too warm nor too cold. For the very severely ill a better term would be ‘complete incapacitation,’ rather than ‘resting.’ The term ‘resting’ implies that the inactivity is optional and this is often not the case in the severely ill who are often ‘resting’ (i.e. incapacitated) because it is physically impossible for them to do anything else.

For moderately ill patients resting means something somewhere between the two extremes, and so on.

Of course for the very severely ill there will be no safe or symptom-free activity limit. Concepts of pacing or of keeping activity at a level which does not cause immediate or delayed symptoms are useless. Indeed, a sizeable proportion of the very severely ill may well be so severely affected in the first place BECAUSE of overexertion in the early stages of their illness, because they were not told how important it was to rest or were not allowed to rest adequately. This is extremely common in M.E. It is a tragedy and an absolute disgrace.
Posted on 07/03/09, 11:07 pm
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Reply #1 - 07/04/09  7:33am
" Great post. I think the risk of overexertion could be lessoned if doctors were trained to give patients information on pacing and resting (they don't in UK in my experience). There is also a problem with delays in specialist treatment. I have been severely ill since October (with periods of CFS in the 3 years before that) and have never yet seen a specialist. Also, if the general public were more educated then I think my family would not have tried to push me early on and at various stages and I would have felt more confident about saying no. Finally, treatments like reverse therapy and the lightning process which I did with what I now realise is categorised as severe CFS/ME, which disregard pacing, can be very dangerous. My mental capacities has seriously deteriorated since doing reverse therapy about 6 weeks ago, and I went from being able to read a bit and look at the TV to not being able to go outside, not being able to watch or listen to the TV and am now very dizzy and light insensitive. I don't understand why UK doctors are not properly trained to provide adequate information for CFS patients. (sorry, needed a rant!) "
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Reply #2 - 07/04/09  10:43am
" Lucy, you're so right, the system here is a mess, the paed. consultant neurologist who diagnosed me is one of the most looked up to in England, and yet, even he, though being a lovely man and great doctor had little understanding, and I was given a level of acitivity to work to that was far too much, and no information or encouragement to rest at all, it was PUSH!

I ended up severely affected, bed bound for 23+ hours of the day and have never got anywhere near the level I started at again. I'm much better than I was, but resting to me is still silence, dark, comfortable, lying down in bed, sometimes if my mind is racing too much I will listen to some relaxation music. At severely affected, if you've not been advised otherwise then you can still see TV as resting, and wonder why you then feel so very very ill! Education MUST be improved.

I still rest when I need to, because I'm 17, I can rest when I want to, for the last week or so I've been feeling awful, and spent most of the week in bed, had I pushed, I'd be feeling worse, you really do have to listen to your body. Thanks for the post :) "
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Reply #3 - 07/04/09  11:30am
" There is a book, recommended to me by Dr Brian Marien, which is very helpful and explains about pacing, sleep hygiene and helpful hints. It is incorrectly titled 'Overcoming Chronic Fatigue' by Mary Burgess and Trudie Chandler.

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The well-respected authors approach the often controversial topic of chronic fatigue syndrome in a way that is functional

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Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is a seriously debilitating illness characterised by extreme exhaustion and severe flu-like symptoms. It is estimated that the illness affects 1-2 per cent of the population, however some experts believe it to be far more widespread with as much as 10 per cent of the population affected. Conventional medicine has been unable to find a cure for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome; but at last researchers at the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit at the University of London, have developed a self-help guide that has proven success in helping sufferers break free from the vicious cycle of fatigue. Overcoming Chronic Fatigue shows readers how to improve their sleep patterns; provides practical strategies for balancing activity and rest; helps deal with blocks to recovery; reveals how worry and stress can contribute to fatigue; and offers advice on how partners, relatives and friends can help. The techniques described in the book have been tested with a wide range of patients and have been found to reduce symptoms and lessen disability in two-thirds of sufferers.


It won't cure you or help you overcome chronic fatigue but it will give you some sound advice and useful tools to help you cope. I have loaned my copy to someone but it is available on Amazon.

It might be worth taking a look at some of the reviews on the site too.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1841199427 "
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Reply #4 - 07/07/09  3:30pm
" Things that have helped me avoid insomnia and hypersomnia include setting an alarm so I always get up at the same time every day, and avoiding anything too strenuous or emotionally over-stimulating after lunchtime.

It seems to be establishing a rhythm, and so far so good. I nap in the afternoons if I really need to, but I am trying very hard not to change that night-time sleep pattern. In the past, sleeping late even one morning seemed to knock me off track for a long time. "
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Reply #5 - 07/08/09  11:30am
" Great Qn Net,
NetJet what are your referances for the original post, are there any please?
I concur with it entirely.
This is a really good question. How much rest is too much rest???????
One I have wrestled with.
None of us are stupid but always remember keep it simple, just like maths keep the fraction in its simplest expression with the lowest common denominator.

Like your input Lucy. Am suprised to hear reverse therapy and the lightning process are all based on PUSH. SCARY.

Always enjoy your contributions Clanger and JenCG. I undrestand exactly where your coming from Clanger "sometimes if my mind is racing too much I will listen to some relaxation music". Was in the place for 2 years where talk back Radio, Radio and TV were far to much for me to cope with.
Couldn't even read more than 5 sentances without inducing migrane. 5 minutes talking quietly to my wife was all I could cope with before mental overexertion and subsiquent seriously deteriorated and migrane insued.
Great referance to book Jen. A self-help guide that has proven success in helping sufferers break free from the vicious cycle of fatigue, and it will give you some sound advice and useful tools to help you cope." are exactly whats needed. The RAAF only knew PUSH and PREJUDICE when PUSH failed.
Good advice RichieD. I suffer insomnia nightly. Rivotril works a little bit. Routine is the hardest thing in the world for me over the last 5 years.
Wrestling with how much rest is too much rest has been one of the main constants over the last 5 years. If I over rest too bad. Its not worth stressing about it.
Under rest will certainly induce fatigue in the new day sooner.
One of the main symptoms of Mercury Poisening is Depression Insomnia and Anxiouty.
I suffer all. A biproduct of Mercury Poisening is that mercury swaps out the cobalimine B 12 greop from the mitacondria at a cellular level.http://www.whale.to/w/b12.html
Dr Kenny De Mierlier talks about this in his book "CFS a biological approach". Nickel is the other dangerous metal inducing CFS symptoms. Lead induces Peripheral Neuropathy.

Also
http://www.ericdavisdental.com/eri...
http://www.cfspages.com/
http://www.amalgam.org/ "
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Reply #6 - 07/10/09  1:53pm
" Ritchie, you are following guidelines that work for me also. See the post I started about Eating your way to better sleep. I think part of feeling better has to do with having a normal circadian rythm "

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