Alcoholism Support Group

From being on the site for awhile rummy you know what to do.
It goes back to the WANT has to more then the NEED.

You can go this SURRENDER!

you are know the outcome, now what do you want more a day of no drinking of the aftermath?

only you have the strength and knowledge to make the choice.

We can all sit her and tell you what would be best, but that would do nothing more than start a debate war with you, slamming AA, slamming people's journey of sobriety, trying to justify why you do what you do, being angry at the world and why you are inflicted with a disease and someone else isn't. It will bring on a debate of how you think you are only sometimes diseased. You don't really want to hear want any of us have to say - like many alkies - you love drama - and you like to be the center of the drama -

You know this answer - it all boils down to you, what do you WANT as opposed to what you think you need.

Routine - you need to change your Sunday routine, if the routine is such a trigger for you and you are aware of it, then do something about it.

Peace!

It's so easy to throw mud at others, but when we need help, we expect them to have washed all that mud off!

Keep coming back, Rum.
Wayne-

Runner, you don't have to ever be back at this point again
But remember, somewhere amonst uising meetings, sponsors, the BB, telephone therapy, the board , the steps etc. : You have to avoid one drink one day at a time. At some point you need to want to drink and use the tools not to drink.
I'm in the same boat right now with food, at some point I have to stop putting that better lifestyle off until tomorrow and start today!
How about today runner??

You can do the next right thing and not take a drink....one day at a time, one hour at a time, one minute at at time.....do as suggested and change your routine....go to an AA meeting, be on here all day, but help yourself.....I believe in you!

RR...you've no real idea how many more binges your body and mind can take. no opinion on your soul.

the probability is you will continue to live a very, very long time. many drinking drunks, or even the drunks who get temporarily sober repeatedly (a much more terrible path) get incredibly old...why should you be lucky?

rummy, you can sit on your butt with a beer in one hand and the computer mouse in the other

OR

You can get off the computer and hit an AA meeting before you crack a beer. Are you willing to go to any lengths to not drink or is cabledude's analysis going to be your self fulfilling prophecy?

Every time you tear yourself down is one more time closer when you will make that final decision for help.
What you are doing now is just a part of the process. The problem is the consequences.

It's Football Sunday - instead of feeding into your trigger - leave and change the atmosphere and go to a meeting.


Sadly - this is one reason i am not a fan of AA - but so many here are and that's cool - but the revolving sugar coated door ain't for everybody - some people just see as an opportunity to use and then be able to go back and start over again - that's cool if that's what floats your boat.

There was a thread on here about enabling vs tough love -

Some people can get through with enablers and others (including myself) have to take the tough love route. I was an enabler for years for my exh who is also an alcoholic/addict - so i am both a diseased person and have been an enabler and i am not turning my back to RR - but this is an intelligent man, with a lot of issues that he has shared and he needs help and we are all here offering it, but he wants it all on his time and in his control -

i want the best for RR I want to see him walk away from this Sunday alcohol free - I really do - but RR needs a kick in the butt, as many of have or has have to have -

The thing is - is we all have to want it more than anything else, this is a disease that is controllable and it's controllable by the person who has it.

When you think you can't beat this disease take a stroll through a cancer hospital, better yet, take a stroll through a children's cancer hospital or a children's shriner's hospital THOSE CHILDREN CAN'T CONTROL THEIR DISEASE, but WE CAN CONTROL THE DISEASE OF ALCOHOLISM = once you believe you can then you can!

If you want to use AA then great - instead of feeding into the daily triggers get to a meeting it's as simple as that - and yes IT IS SIMPLE -whether you realize it or not - if you want to use another way - then do it, but it CAN BE DONE -

We all get broken - that's what alcoholism does to a person - it BREAKS YOU DOWN - but if you are alive, then you are lucky and you can conquer - but not if you don't want it bad enough - and ONE MUST DEAL WITH ALL THE ISSUES OF THE PAST AND PRESENT, ONE MUST FACE REALITY AND FEEL PAIN TO HEAL PAIN - Pain is no fun, life is not easy, but it is what it is and the choice is in the hands of the diseased!

I want only the best for RR - i really do, I have sent him PM's with personal experiences in my life - i have shared with him more than once - but he's already established his pattern on the board - and that's why I choose to be more "brutual" or "tough love" or what appears to be "non caring" the thing is i think RR is at a point where he needs to read what he's asking and make the choices he knows he's seeking - Sugar coating and the AA revolving door attitude (of course that is my opinion about AA - and i love all my AA friends) doesn't seem to be getting through to him - so why not try a different fork in the road -

I pray that RR makes it through football Sunday w/o a drink - that i would be happy to do a happy dance about.

Peace.

I have to agree with what gjm says often about the want having to be more than the need. I think you're getting there rummy. I know you want to feel alive, do you want it bad enough to do anything? Go get your happiness & freedom rummy, it's there for you. Hang in there buddy.