What is Alcoholism
Alcoholism is a powerful craving for alcohol which often results in the compulsive consumption of alcohol, an addiction. The cause of this craving is heavily debated, but the most ...
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And once again, I will reiterate that God can do what AA does and it's doing it for me and a few others on here that try not to talk about it because it seems to offend.
I know this thread will die a quick death, I've seen it happen before but I had to get my 2 cents worth in. God has performed some miracles and I should be dead now twice and nothing but divine intervention is the possibility in my mind. I don't care what Nemorino says. PFFFFFFFFTHHHHHH! But I love him, I just don't like his all or nothing stance. When he was a Monk, he was an all or nothing person then and he was a drunk, so now he gives up religion entirely and again is being an all or nothing person. Whatever works for him or anyone is grand but so many people on here think their way is the ONLY way. I was sober for 22 years while an agnostic and didn't go to AA, not sure how I did it but I did. Everyone is an individual and AA may work for some, certainly no one really knows the ratio of how many it has worked for. I rarely post on this forum anymore, I get more from Church and God. *RUNS FOR MY LIFE FROM THIS THREAD* Posted on 11/07/09, 02:11 am |
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AB,
You well know that people are going to think whatever they think. Let em have a go at it. Free will is what it is. There are many hear who could use a post from you more regularly. There may be someone here who you could help, as well as at your church. We can't box God in, and we can't etch God out. Somewhere I read that He is able to save to the uttermost. 
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I think we are all good people with very good intentions of helping someone to remain sober, so in doing that we share out experiences to how we are doing it... whether that be a god of my understanding or going to church, attending and joining the aa fellowship, I am hopeing for everyone that at the end of thiers and my day we all remain sober... So in saying this it clearly is ones only way that worked for them,, so yes its going to be shared because its how it works.. as for the ratio, i could at one time pick apart every little thing however, that way wasn't keeping me sober, and this way is... so way the odds i guess,,, you will find what works for you... welcome to recovery and finding out what and who you were meant to be....(((hugs))))
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Perhaps because this is an alcoholism form, not a mythology forum?
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Amen! AB you know me - AA, no AA, without God it's not possible. I love Nemo too and I know he will debate this,and possible a few others, but that's ok too - Different strokes for different folks!
Peace to you my friend!
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beliefs are wide open in AA, and intensely personal to each of us who came to our own conception of a power greater than ourselves.
very glad there is no single or proper conception, no AA approved idea in this area. the people I respect never discuss the particulars of their personal conceptions. that would interfere with others making their own search. we all owe a debt to AAs atheists and agnostics, without their voices and respect for their beliefs AA might develop into something really horrible.
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I'm looking up ... above my computer, on the wall behind, is an exquisite painting of Chenresik -- the Bodhisattva of Compassion. A central figure in Tibetan Buddhism and the object of deep veneration, I have been told, and do believe, that Chenresik is a metaphor for human compassion as a saving grace.
As the Buddha said, "If we act and speak with compassion, those thoughts will follow us like the cart follows the ox." On the New Moon, I will say prayers to Chenresik. The hope is that by honoring the Bodhisattva of Compassion I will stir that unseen connection in myself between my limited ability to experience unjudging love and an eternal principle for which Chenresik in the metaphor. But, here's my point, I never ever bring this up in an AA meeting. It would only serve to alienate people. Keep it simple. I'll talk about the importance of faith, I'll talk about walking the spiritual path, but the details are better left to the parking lot after the meeting :-) Or a discussion board on the Web. :-) No small irony that we just read chapter 4 at the BB meeting.
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Why on your God's green earth did you make this post?
Just to stir a pot? Your last line showed you are aware of what you did. Needed a little drama today? and there was even a personal mild attack in there...good job I hate deliberate contention....course when I start it ....it is fun. So I take what you said with a spoon of salt and prefer to stay far away from your church....oh that's right I go to AA on Sunday.....covered.
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It's just
Like You think it has to BE YOUR god.....why can't this forum be all religions? Spirituality. And usually this forum does.....because ppl that push thier religion damage an alcoholic's chance to be sober. Go Away you bothered my morning...go be pious somewhere else
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be·lief (b-lf)
n. 1. The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another: My belief in you is as strong as ever. 2. Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something: His explanation of what happened defies belief. 3. Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons. [Middle English bileve, alteration (influenced by bileven, to believe) of Old English gelafa; see leubh- in Indo-European roots.] Synonyms: belief, credence, credit, faith These nouns denote mental acceptance of the truth, actuality, or validity of something: a statement unworthy of belief; an idea steadily gaining credence; testimony meriting credit; has no faith in a liar's assertions. See Also Synonyms at opinion. Antonym: disbelief The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth belief [bɪˈliːf] n 1. a principle, proposition, idea, etc., accepted as true 2. opinion; conviction 3. religious faith 4. trust or confidence, as in a person or a person's abilities, probity, etc
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I don't see the contradiction you are pointing to little sister. You are speaking of God (with a capital g) and so does AA. I'm so so glad to see you "believing", it is undoubtedly the best thing that's happened to you and most probably will make the biggest and most enduring changes for good in your life. But AA is a godly, spiritual program too.
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