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My personal observation this morning. We do not live in a bubble...what we do affects others.

Sometimes dramatically and sometimes subtley. Amends can be for as much as murder..unfaithfulness... But yet again amends can be for hurting someones feelings, using someone or neglect.

This also can happen in sobriety
Posted on 07/03/09, 12:07 pm
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Reply #1 - 07/03/09  12:35pm
" oh yeah, it happens fast... thankfull today to be sober and have a fellowship of ppl in recovery. i have learned more with working the 12 steps in AA then i did in school on how our actions and words can hurt someone else.... I am not perfect by any means however, i watch and think more before speaking... I still make mistakes and its ok to make mistakes as long as i can see them when they happen and get on it right away instead of just saying oh well get to it later ... as later may not come! . "
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Reply #2 - 07/03/09  12:37pm
" Yes, most definitely!

We human beings all need each other in order for our natural instincts and desires to be satisfied, and we can only harm each other while still living either in or for one's own self.

However, there also is a big difference between trouble or pain in someone's life being brought on by his or her own self or the self of someone else. So then, we need to amend our own actions where our own selfs have caused trouble or pain for others, but not just because someone else might have been bothered by something we might have done that was *not* for our own sake. "
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Reply #3 - 07/03/09  12:47pm
" Yep thats why we have step 10! I cant just do step9 and then carry on hurting people, I need to keep my side of the street clean and apologise quickly, I cant afford resentments or worry. "
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Reply #4 - 07/03/09  1:59pm
" Making an amends is so important when we have said something or done something to hurt someone. Even if it was an accident or mistake or just a difference of opinion that got heated.... it's important to consider the other person regardless of what's going on.

Making apologies takes humility and integrity. An amends shows love and respect for another human being. You don't have to like it or agree with that person but taking responsibility for our bad behavior or harmful mistake brings us closer to God and closer to being or remaining a healthy thinker. "
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Reply #5 - 07/03/09  4:10pm
" Practice these principles in all our affairs. I have to look at my motives for most things I do. Amends are for me, but what I am trying to get out of it may cost the other person. I have to be hard on myself ,but tolerant of others. Sure is a lot of contemplation involved in day to day living, but it's worth it in the long run for me. "

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