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What is AA?
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This post is not intended to get anyone's ire up. I'd like to have a respectful debate about it.

I was just listening to Clancy I. about AA's primary purpose, and he said something which--right or wrong--I've believed for a long, long time.

AA is one alcoholic reaching out to another alcoholic and helping them to see that they are really not alone or unique in their alcoholism, and that there is a way to stay sober and find meaning in life.

AA is not the Big Book or meetings, because AA existed before we had these things. AA's used to meet around kitchen tables. It is not spirituality, understanding or love...these are adjuncts to AA but not definitions of it.

The primary purpose of AA is for one alcoholic to help another. That is the message that I want to carry to the newcomer. "I am here for you, and together, we can stay sober. Here's how it worked for me..."
Posted on 07/01/09, 02:07 pm
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Reply #1 - 07/01/09  2:13pm
" BRAVO "
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Reply #2 - 07/01/09  2:18pm
" AA is a voluntary program which provides new tools for living. The steps help us to recognize and improve character flaws we have. They also bring us to a new level of understanding ourselves and others. Helps us to understand our relationship with alcohol. "
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Reply #3 - 07/01/09  3:33pm
" I think that is exactly what was intended. The first choice as a name for the book was "A Way Out", but there were to many books named that already. The identification of the problem Alcoholism, which causes little room for anything else. Is the cornerstone , with that realization , "The possibilities are unlimited", that is what I heard when I got here from the old- timers. They did not promise us anything else and warned us just as Bob did not to complicate it. We Welcome you and to pass it on You welcome others The new person is the most important person in the room; !0 out of 15 people said at the place I got sober and they meant it. When they said they had our best interest at heart, I think that as much as anything else, sold me on the idea. That they did have A way out and I could obtain that in the company of like- minded people . Good topic
Billy "
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Reply #4 - 07/01/09  5:29pm
" Thank You "
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Reply #5 - 07/01/09  5:47pm
" >> AA is one alcoholic reaching out to another alcoholic and helping them to see that they are really not alone or unique in their alcoholism, and that there is a way to stay sober and find meaning in life. (Clancy I.)

Clancy is correct, of course, yet his statement is both empty and unknowable outside the context of "Alcoholics Anonymous", the book. But to prove that, everyone who does *not* actually do what is in the book would have to stop hanging around and leaning on the rest of us in order to find out what they really do *not* have for themselves! "
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Reply #6 - 07/01/09  5:54pm
" The AA Preamble

ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for A.A. membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions. A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety. "
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Reply #7 - 07/01/09  5:57pm
" To me this is what AA is

God Bless...

Lionel

The AA Preamble

ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for A.A. membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions. A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety. "
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Reply #8 - 07/01/09  6:03pm
" I AM RESPONSIBLE
Whenever anyone, anywhere, reaches out for help, I want the hand of AA always to be there. And for that, I am responsible.


The Big Book was written to facilitate what those first few hundred proved. That one alcoholic working with another is the essential of the program. The Steps themselves were borrowed and expanded upon to make them more palatable. For many the closest they can get to spirituality (at first) is the bond between themselves and that person sitting across the table from them. Listening to the difficulties of daily life and offering them the hope of a way out. Faith in the intangible is hard for anyone but seeing the result of that faith is hard to ignore.

I AM RESPONSIBLE
Whenever anyone, anywhere, reaches out for help, I want the hand of AA always to be there so I can slap them upside the head with the book and and a bunch of ya gotta's. And for that, I am responsible.

I don't think it was meant to be that way. Sorry but it is the way I see it some times. "
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Reply #9 - 07/01/09  7:00pm
" If AA is just a fellowship where we share our experience strength and hopes, and where one alcoholic reaches out and helps another, then I'm an AA member even though I go to non-AA meetings, don't have a sponsor and don't work the steps. That makes SMART Recovery, SOS, RR, MM, WFS and Lifering different factions of AA. Sorry to sound contentious, but being too vague about what you are just makes your message trite and shallow. I really think you have to pinpoint your message a little more than this. "
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Reply #10 - 07/01/09  7:09pm
" And here we go.......... "

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