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Interesting article I found and some interesting comments in the forum section afterwords.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/...

Editor's Note: This "Sustainable Developments" column will be printed in the December 2008 issue of Scientific American.

The origin of the U.S. financial crisis is that commercial banks and investment banks lent vast sums—trillions of dollars—for housing purchases and consumer loans to borrowers ill-equipped to repay. The easy lending pushed up housing prices around the U.S., which then ratcheted still higher when speculators bought houses on the expectation of yet further price increases. When the easy lending slowed and then stopped during 2006-07, the housing prices peaked and began to fall. The housing boom began to unravel and now threatens an economy-wide bust.

The U.S. economy faces four cascading threats: First, the sharp decline in consumer spending on houses, autos and other durables, following the sharp decline in lending to households, will cause a recession as construction of new houses and production of consumer durables nosedive. Second, many homeowners will default on their mortgage payments and consumer loans, especially as house values fall below the mortgage values. Third, the banking sector will cut back sharply on its lending in line with the fall in its capital following the write-off of bad mortgage and consumer loans. Those capital losses will push still more financial institutions into bankruptcy or forced mergers with stronger banks. Fourth, the retrenchment of lending now threatens even the shortest-term loans, which banks and other institutions lend to each other for working capital. Interbank loans and other commercial paper are extremely hard to place.

The gravest risks to the economy come back to front. The fourth threat is by far the worst. If the short-term commercial paper and money markets were to break down, the economy could go into a severe collapse because solvent and profitable businesses would be unable to attract working capital. Unemployment, now at 6 percent of the labor force, could soar to more than 10 percent. That kind of liquidity collapse was the basic reason why Asian national incomes declined by around 10 percent between 1997 and 1998, and why the U.S. economy fell by around 25 percent during the Great Depression.

The third threat, the serious impairment of bank capital as banks write off their bad loans, could cause a severe recession, but not a depression. Unemployment might rise, for example, up to 10 percent, which would create enormous social hardships. The ongoing fall in bank capital as the housing boom turns to bust is already forcing banks to cut back their outstanding loans significantly, because they must keep the lending in proportion to their now-shrunken capital base. Major investment projects, such as acquisition of new buildings and major machinery, are being scaled back. Some major nonfinancial companies will likely go bankrupt as well.

The second threat, the financial distress of homeowners, will certainly be painful for millions of households, especially the ones that borrowed heavily in recent years. Many will lose their homes; some will be pushed into bankruptcy. Some may see their credit terms eased in renegotiations with their banks. Consumers as a group will start to become net savers again after years of heavy net borrowing. That trend will not be bad in the long term but will be painful in the short run.

The first threat, the cutback in sales of housing and other consumer durables, is the Humpty-Dumpty of the economy that cannot be put back together. The inventory of unsold homes is now large; housing demand and new construction will be low for many years. Consumer spending on appliances and autos is also plummeting. All these consequences are largely unavoidable and will force the U.S. into at least a modest recession, with unemployment likely to rise temporarily to perhaps 8 percent.

The goal of any new policy cannot be to prevent a recession. It's too late to stop such a downturn. The goal cannot be to save every bank. The U.S. economy has built up too many imbalances—consumer debt, overextended construction, impaired capital of banks—to avoid an economic downturn and a major retrenchment of the banking sector. The goal must be to avoid an outright collapse or deep recession. Two actions are therefore critical, and two more are subsidiary but still important.

Most important, the government and Federal Reserve Board must prevent the collapse of working capital by supplying short-term loans and taking other measures to sustain the commercial paper market, interbank lending and the smooth functioning of money market funds. They have the instruments to do so, and should use them aggressively. The government should also aggressively promote a recapitalization of the banking system so that bank lending is not squeezed for years to come. It can directly inject some public capital into banks, and can both pressure and entice the banks to raise additional private capital. Unfortunately, the $700-billion bailout nearing approval in Congress does not focus adequately on those liquidity or recapitalization challenges.(The legislation is better than nothing (to help forestall panic) but the real work of stabilizing and recapitalizing the banking system will now await the next administration, and the Federal Reserve will need to stay aggressive in preventing a liquidity collapse."

Two additional steps will be useful. The first will be to ease the repayment terms on existing mortgage holders, to reduce the flood of defaults and foreclosures that will otherwise occur. The second is to encourage expansionary monetary and fiscal policies abroad (most notably in cash-rich Asia), so that the decline in U.S. consumer spending is smoothly offset by a rise in spending in other countries. This overseas expansion would allow the U.S. to offset the fall in housing construction by a rise in exports, and would allow other countries to offset the fall in their exports to the U.S. by a rise in their internal demand. All these steps will have to await the next administration.

Now my views....

Bottom line, don't blow smoke up the ass of consumers, telling them that they can afford loans that they are unable to pay back...We are giving loans on products that depreciate, have no or little value, once value is gone the loan is no good. Nobody wants to purchase a loan when it has no backing.... that would be stupid.

We as a nation are responsible for the financial crisis, not just any one President, not any one congressman, this is the fault of many, we put them there, take back our country and put in people that are properly educated. It should be required that all congressman should have a degree in business, a degree in law, and a degree in economics.... downturns happen, we can not avoid them, but what we can avoid is how we react to them....

Socialism is not the answer, when you run out of other peoples money then socialism collapses.... don't bank on false money.
Posted on 09/03/09, 10:09 am
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Reply #1 - 09/03/09  8:12pm
" downturn?

this is no downturn. this is the beginning of a complete redefinition of the United States.

there is no sign that we will stem the flow of jobs leaving. and, there is no sign that we will not without war in the forseeable future.

i think this is the most remarkable time in American history since its inception. it will be fascinating to see how our government and people navigate these next twenty years. "
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Reply #2 - 09/06/09  7:19pm
" Navigate, I dare say the people will.
The government maybe not. They are in danger of partisan' ing' themselves into extinction. I have never seen so much precious time being lost over jousting between the two parties.

I wish they would leave the schoolground and come out and play with the people and learn what we really expect of them.

But then again Americans are known to live in the moment and the "government" people are employed so if they don't feel the problem then "there must not be a problelm".

Yes, I am disgusted with the whole pack of them. "
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Reply #3 - 09/17/09  6:38pm
" yes, disgusted with the whole pack, 2010 is coming, we shall see. Maybe that is why the founding fathers did not put term limits in the constitution, if we are paying attention, they have four years, better get it right!!! "
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Reply #4 - 09/23/09  10:16pm
" ...and then what happens in 2010? We elect more of the same?

Republicans and Democrats, imo, are both equally worthless....power grabs and votes are their priorities...

Unless we get a 3rd party candidate, that is strong and dedicated to the will of the people, I'm afraid we will be destined to repeat...

The definition of insanity?..... "
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Reply #5 - 10/01/09  8:40am
" what we need is a good media. we need our think tanks to speak up and tell us what they see as going on and where the trends are. but, we are not hearing it.

we need a Walter Cronkite. "
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Reply #6 - 10/17/09  1:01pm
" You allow your dollar to devalue to such low levels while keeping wage rises to a minimum and efectivly turn your first world economy into a second world labour market for other more aspirational and more wealthy nations to buy your wares. While all his is going on they will build ever more gated communities in some vain attempt to keep the riff raff out but thats not the answer everyones seeking. Where has the sense of community and SOCIETY gone. I fear it sailed away with the Ah's who build exclusive yacht clubs and have exclusive clubs to themselves. Are they happy? On because they spend half their time trying to ignore the plight of the people on the other side of the tracks or the fence or the wire. fences arnt the answer to happyness. Community, cohesive communicating integrated inclusive society by way of shared values and familiarity, sharing and caring are are the way to lasting happyness. Tare down your walls and help someone less fortunate than you.
Al "
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Reply #7 - 10/17/09  7:26pm
" What preceded the 1929 stock market crash?
Answer the 1928 Florida Property Crash.
Have a read about it.
One on 6 buisnesses in NY were mortguaged into Florida property. One in 4 Chicago Busnesses were mortguaged into the Florida property market.
http://www.businesscycles.biz/real... "
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Reply #8 - 10/18/09  12:29pm
" ali5tair, why don't you just come right out and tell us how you feel about the US? And you know this why?

We do have some tremendous problems but ours are just different than other governments and we are just more visible. "

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